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Podcast: Acts 29 Vancouver
Episode: Ps. 91 - Staying in the Secret Place
Publishing Date: 2024-08-25T06:04:44-07:00
Podcast URL: https://acts29.ca
Episode URL: https://acts29.ca/ps-91-staying-in-the-secret-place/

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So we are starting on Psalm 91. We had started on Psalm 91 and so we now go to Psalm 91.1

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It says in Psalm 91.1 that depending on the version you read, if you read the New King James,

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it says, he that dwells in the secret place of the Most High. He that dwells in the secret place of

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the Most High. When you read the message, it says, you who sit down in High God's presence,

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High God's presence. And so most versions will find themselves in between these two. So if you

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read the New King James, it says, he that dwells in the secret place of the Most High. And then the

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message says, you who sit down in High God's presence. And so at the end of the day, the secret

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place of the Most High, the secret place of the Most High is the tangible presence of God. When

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we say tangible, what we mean is, yes, it's not visible, but it can be perceived, felt, recognized,

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savored, engaged, first by our spirit and then with emotions and thinking.

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And finally, there might be manifestations that are physical. This has been the case in the New

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Testament and the Old Testament. So let me say that again. When we talk about the secret place

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of the Most High, we are talking about the presence of the Most High, the tangible presence

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of the Most High. And when we are talking about the tangible presence of the Most High, we're not

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saying that it's visible. God is invisible. He lives in unapproachable light. Anytime he has shown

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himself, besides when Jesus was on earth, it was always in an anthropomorphic way where you talk

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about him showing his hand or showing his brilliant face and things like that. It's never in his full

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presence because we wouldn't be able to handle it. So when we talk about tangible presence,

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we are talking about it is not visible, but his presence can be felt, can be perceived,

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can be recognized, can be savored, can be engaged first by our spirit, because all of us are born

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again in a brand new spirit, and then with our emotions and our thinking and maybe occasionally

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physical manifestations that were common in the Old Testament because they had no other way to

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recognize God and is not as common in the New Testament, but has occurred and therefore is

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a precedent. Any questions? And if we don't know how to do it, it's just because we don't practice

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it. It's not because it's not real. You can hide in God, but the secret place of God is his presence.

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Yeah. One is where you go to for safety and refuge. The other one is where you dwell. Yeah.

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Experiencing him without emotions. I'm saying that even though here on this board,

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we've clinically divided it, we can't clinically divide it. But he's easiest to recognize in our

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spirit because the Bible says in Proverbs 20 verse 27, the spirit of man is the lamp of the Lord.

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What he means by that is I use your spirit to illuminate myself first. It's in your spirit

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that you can instantly pick me up, but it's not like one follows after the other. Right now,

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even as I'm talking, certain things are registering in your spirit, but your emotions are at work too.

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Your mind is at work too. You cannot clinically divide it. It's the entire man. But God is first

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recognized in the New Testament by the spirit of man in whom the Holy Spirit dwells. Like calls to

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deep. It's just that we are so accustomed to seeing things through observable data and

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through processing it that it's not a natural instinct, but it's supposed to be that way for

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us as believers. It's only a matter of practice. It's not that it's not real. It's just a matter

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of practice. Any questions on that? So if you look at Genesis 2.8, that was a secret place. What

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does it say in Genesis 2.8? And then God created a garden, and he called the garden Eden. And he

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took man. God planted a garden, not created a garden. God planted a garden. That's different

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from creating. He had already finished creating everything. And then he plants a garden. So he

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plants a garden as in he planned it. He landscaped it for Adam and Eve. There was thought that went

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into it. And then it says he put Adam and Eve in the garden, and he called it Eden. And what was

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Eden? Eden meant delight, pleasure. It is a delightful place. And he plants them there. That

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becomes their secret place where they walked with the presence of God. You move from there to Exodus

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22, 25 or thereabouts. Let me just get you the scripture. Yeah, Exodus 25, 22. If you go to Exodus

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25, 22, they've just finished building the ark. And on the ark, once the ark was built, it's sitting

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there. And God says, Now I want you to build a lid for it. But here's a prescription for the lid.

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It should have two angels with their wings stretched out this way. And he decided to call that space

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between the two angels on top of the ark, the mercy seat. And then he goes on to say in Exodus

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25, 22, listen, I will meet with you. And I will speak to you from the mercy seat. And I'll tell

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you what to do. And I'll give you commands. It is a secret place. Moses would go there. Moses would

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go there. Numbers 33. You see Moses setting up a tent, and he would set it apart from the congregation.

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Anybody could go there. It wasn't a Moses thing. He called it the tent of meeting. And he would

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enter in there. And it would become the secret place where the presence of God was so obvious

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that all of Israel would watch and just be in awe. And he would go in and he would come out. This

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is the Old Testament. So at the end of the day, when we talk about the secret place of the Most

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High, it is the ability to find and locate yourself in the presence of God. And it can be savored,

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it can be tasted, it can be felt, it can be expressed. It must be seen by others through you,

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though you can't actually see God. Part of the reason God comes to live in a people,

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we sang that song, God with us, God for us, is so that he can make himself visible to others

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through you. Not in his physical form, but in his nature. What a privilege, eh? What a privilege

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to be able to let the world see him through flesh, you and I. And the word became flesh.

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The word is still becoming flesh. Only he's got an entire body now. He's got Chava and Derek and me

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and what's his name sitting next to you, Dhawan? Dilna. Yeah. So one of the things about secret

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place living is secret place living is exclusively relationship based. It's exclusively relationship

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based. As in, it's initiated by God or put into covenant or put into practice by God,

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it's sustained by the Spirit. It's sustained by the Spirit and our yieldedness to him allows us

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to experience the fullness of it. So even if you look at the Old Testament, anybody who actually

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got to say things like or dwell in the secret place or the presence of God, and you'll find David,

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David talks about this often. It says, at your right hand, our pleasures evermore, in your presence,

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there is fullness of joy. If you look at the guys who actually wrote things or understood secret

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place, these were guys who knew how to engage the presence of God. Moses, Adam, David, these are the

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ones who were able to do it. And so one of the things we need to realize is that secret place

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living is exclusively relationship based. The moment you shift that or introduce anything else,

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it's like contamination. And we contaminate this and therefore are not able to savor it to the

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extent. And we'll talk about how we contaminate this. But secret place living is exclusively

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relationship based. It's initiated by God. He's the initiator. He's the author. He's the one who

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makes the covenant. He's the one who says, this is what I'll do for you. This is how I adopt you.

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This is who I will be to you. Everything is initiated by God. There's absolutely no part

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that we play. We don't play a part in this. It's initiated by him. It's sustained by the Spirit.

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The reason he gives us the fullness of his Spirit, fullness of his Spirit is so that we can

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continuously be sustained in the secret place. As in continuously have the presence in us and

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the presence around us. And I've said this more than a year ago, periodic awareness of his presence

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was never God's design for man. The periodic awareness of presence was never God's design

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for man. It was never God's design that you get periodically aware of me when you worship or when

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you have an intense moment during your quiet time or you suddenly see me do something for you. That

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is not how I wanted you to exist. That is not how Adam existed. That is not how Moses existed. That

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is not even how David existed. That these guys were in the Old Testament without a covenant. I

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want you Chava to be someone who does not have these periodic times of awareness of me. I want

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you to be constantly engaged with me which is why I sustain it by the Spirit by putting in you myself.

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And we may be at different places in this process but my God we are all in this process. So don't

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be discouraged at what you're missing out on. Be encouraged that tomorrow this can be even more

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real than today. And it's sustained by the Spirit. Where do we play a part? Our part is to the extent

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that you want to taste it. To that extent you can yield and it'll become tastier. It'll never be

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held back from you. Never be held back from you. The presence of God will never be held back from

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you. Sin will not drive away the presence of God. Hear me. Sin will not drive away the presence of

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God. You do not speak Psalm 51 anymore. Cast me not away from your presence, O God. Take not your

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Holy Spirit from me. Does not apply to the New Covenant. Even sin does not take away the presence

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of God. What it does is because of the relationship you have, because it's solely relationship-based,

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what happens is relationship is broken and relationship can be fixed but presence is

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never removed. Never. The presence is even more powerful when sin happens because the presence of

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God wants to draw you back into the place that you always belong which is where? Which is in his

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embrace. If one looked for God after sinning or in sin, you would find him even stronger than usual

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because he is there to draw you back. Whether he draws you back with extravagant love or whether

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he draws you back with discipline, he will be there to draw you back. Any questions on that?

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So what is the opposite of exclusive relationship-based living that we sometimes

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engage in that contaminates secret place living? One, reliance on self. You have to put yourself

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in the place of a little child with your father. That's how we have to think this. It becomes real,

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presence becomes real if I can be childlike. If I get grown up, presence kind of morphs. But if

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you think like a child, this becomes very easy. So here are the things that rob a child of presence.

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The first one is reliance on self. Second, rule keeping to gain favor or protect from danger.

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Three, appearances. As in being a certain way for the sake of people and God. It's what's called

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false piety. Four, works, which goes back in a sense to rule keeping. But works is when good

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works gain favor. This is what every other religion in the world is based on. Every other

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religion has that at its center. Five, perfection. Wanting to be, wanting to get it,

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wanting desperately to get it right. And if you don't, it's devastating.

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Or in other words, all this can be put together under the word. That's what it looks like.

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Therefore, you find suddenly that some of us, all of us at some point or the other,

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are legalistic because this creeps in. So you have to think like a child. A child misses out on the

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presence of the father when the child decides that I'm going to rely on myself. I'm going to

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do this myself. I don't need you. Because this is solely relationship based. Presence is always

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because of a relationship. Two, rule keeping to gain favor or to protect from danger. As in when

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I am keeping rules because I'm afraid of what will happen if I don't. Or if I'm keeping rules

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because I think I'll get something if I do. Both are not helpful. It damages the relationship.

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It's a warping of the relationship. Three, I was wondering what he was coming up to do.

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Third, appearances. Appearances. Where it is possible to show something on the outside that

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I'm not. One of the things we have to be careful, guys, is when we meet people first, try not to

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pretend. Because how we pretend is the impression they take away. What they give us and they don't

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give us is based on their first impression. Try not to make a first impression. It's a bad idea

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to make a first impression. Let them find out who you are over a period of time because that's a

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real you. Pardon? Yeah, but I'm talking about you creating a first impression. I don't want to

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create a first impression. Yeah, you have to hear my words. You have to create a first impression.

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You should avoid creating a first impression. Because we do that. We are told to do that. One

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must get a good impression of you. It's not worth it, guys, because you either end up getting what

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you don't know how to handle or you give people an impression of you that's not true and they'll

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find out later or you end up not being given what you should be given because over a period of time

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they'll find out how solid you are. Appearances. Being a certain way for the sake of people.

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Sometimes it's called false piety. We do it with God too, eh? We do it with God. Not all of us know

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how to be starkly naked before God. Starkly honest. This is how I really feel about you.

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Not all of us can write Psalms like David. This is the truth. And then the next one is works when

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good works gain favor. That I don't think is a problem, at least as far as I know amongst us.

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And then the last one is perfection. Wanting desperately to get it right to the point that

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if you don't it's devastating. It is so important to be free from that. So important to be free from

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that. When it's a relationship, getting it right is less important. When it's not a relationship,

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getting it right is super important because everything depends on that. These are the things

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that contaminate presence, guys. This is why you love your children's drawings. They are so clumsy,

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they are so useless. Your fridge is crowded with them. You want to get rid of it. You wish you

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didn't have grandchildren. And then you keep sticking it. You buy another fridge. You put

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another. It just goes on and on. Why? Because it's just a pure relationship that you have with these

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grandkids and kids of yours. Yesterday, Yaya and Phoebe drew something and it's stuck on my fridge

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now. At some point I'll have to remove it. It's pretty bad. But the point is you don't. Why? Because

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it's based on relationship. These are the things that contaminate presence. Go ahead, Anne.

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Appearances. Being a certain way for the sake of people. What's the question?

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I'll give you one from my life. I would go to certain churches and then they would ask me to

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lead worship. I would know the song I need to choose because the Lord would say,

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this is what I want you to choose. But I would also know the song that I could really sing

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that would affect people, that would even make them weep. And so it was important for me to move

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the congregation, to show them the kind of worship I can lead. And I would choose a song that I wasn't

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supposed to lead. It's to create an impression. We do that. People would come and tell me how

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was. Eddie, same thing. I was in a church. Very clearly the Lord tells me, I need you to preach

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this message. And I'm looking at all the other speakers and they're preaching messages that are

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so amazing that everybody's clapping and shouting hallelujah. And I immediately knew if I spoke what

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God asked me to speak, I would get no hallelujahs. And so I changed and I gave, I spoke a really

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rah rah message. Everybody started shouting hallelujah and praise the Lord and all this stuff. And

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Eddie meets me and Eddie comes and tells me, I want you to, God wants you to know that when

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you try to copy others, at best you're a lousy copy. Why don't you stick with God is what God

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has told you. You have a uniqueness. Can you express that? Or do you want to be like others?

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Appearances. Jesus gave a parable. He said there was a rich man and there was a poor man. The rich

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man stood before the Lord and he said, Oh Lord, I have done this and I have done that and the

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other. And the poor man stood on the other side and he said, I'm a worm. I'm worth nothing.

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Yeah, that's a completely different context. Yeah. Try not to create appearances.

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It's a side point, but it's an important point. Your inadequacy is God's greatest ability to display

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himself. Always remember that your inadequacy is your greatest strength. For when you are weak,

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he and his presence are ridiculously strong. The world does not allow that. The world says otherwise.

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But always remember this. Your inadequacy is your greatest strength and God's greatest weapon.

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Because when you are infirm, when you are weak, when you come with your knees trembling,

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when you have broken speech, when the way you speak is not worth anything, 1 Corinthians 2

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immediately goes into effect where Paul says, I did not come to you with any manner of oratorial

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skill or strength. I came to you in trembling and in fear. And yet God began to then take my

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infirmity and he began to demonstrate the power of the spirit through my weakness.

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When we go down this route, we lose, we lose our connection with presence. It's very hard to practice

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it because the world says otherwise. Sorry? Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. It is counterintuitive. It is an upside down kingdom. These things cancel kingdom culture.

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This is what legalism looks like. It is a practice that's based on a self, effort and not relationship.

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Okay. So when we look at secret place, we said it's presence. And what are words used for presence

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in the Bible? Kabod, Hebrew word for the weight of his glory. English, glory. Greek, doxa. Hebrew,

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shekinah. These are all words that mean the same thing. What's presence? What's the Hebrew word

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for presence? Panim. What does it mean? It's the same word used for face. He that dwells in the

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secret place of the most high is basically he that dwells in the face of the countenance of God. And

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it is never taken away. We've done that chair thing where someone's sitting on a chair and God's

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facing him. You're upset with God and you turn your chair and before you turn your chair, he's

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already facing you. Doesn't matter which way you turn, he's facing you. Who came up with this first?

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Psalm 139. What did David say? It doesn't matter where I go. I take the wings of the morning,

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you're there. I hide myself in the deepest depths, you're there. Wherever I go, you turn up. At the

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end of the day, the secret place is the ability that you and I have. Even if it's for five minutes

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a day. Start there man. What are you doing? You are one of those rare species on earth who gets to

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see the countenance of the living God, invisible yet tangible, face to face for five minutes out

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of 24 hours. Wonderful are you. Tomorrow five minutes, 20 seconds. It keeps increasing. You

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think you won't change? 1 Corinthians 3, 18. We behold him face to face and we are changed from

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glory to glory. We behold him face to face and we are changed from glory to glory. In intense

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moments of shame, in intense moments of condemnation, in intense moments of guilt, in intense moments of

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feeling unworthy, go to that one place that you usually don't go to because again we go back to

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legalism. Fix it before you come to God. How do we fix it? We fix it Christianly. What does Christian

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fixing look like? Oh Jesus, I'm a worm. I really messed up. Oh forgive me. I don't deserve it but

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please oh God have mercy. Cleanse me. You go through that fix it. But what if you beheld his face? You

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would still find a face that favors you just like a child is favored by the parent. Be it through

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extravagant love or be it through discipline. The faith does not change and I wish I could remember it.

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I wish I could remember it always because that's what it means. Panjim, faith, presence, same thing.

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The Lord bless you and keep you. The Lord make his face to shine upon you. The Lord lift up his

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countenance and give you peace. Do you realize that he has never turned away his favor-filled

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face from you? Never. We just forget because every other relationship in our life turns their face

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away right? We superimpose that on God. So when you are in the secret place, the air or the atmosphere

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or the environment is electric with these things. Right living or righteousness, peace, joy, power,

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presence. The air is electric with it. The air is electric with it. As in if you could touch it,

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it would go grrr. You know what happens when you touch static or you touch a live wire? Everybody

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together. It's a Greek word. Betty, you want to try it? No? Okay. So the air is electric with it.

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As in it's impossible to be engaged at even a diluted level of the presence of God and not

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have this desire to be upright. It's not possible. It's not possible to be engaged even at a even

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at 30% 40% with the living God and his presence and not have a desire to be upright. It's not

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possible to not then have shalom begin to crowd into your life. The kind of shalom, the kind of

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peace that comes with a sense of rest like you're restful in it. It's not something you have to hold

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on to. Joy, power, presence, these go together. This is the evidence, this is the litmus test

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of whether a person is walking with presence in presence and whether a person can savor this,

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can express this. This is the litmus test. And there are moments like this in our lives every week

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where all of us experience this. Sometimes all fight together and when you experience that,

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that's let heaven come. That's what it looks like. I don't want us to think that this is something

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we've got to keep pushing towards. I'm saying we already have experiences of this. Just increase

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it. Because if you do, people will see. One of the jobs here on earth is to telescope God

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so others can see him not as a distant star but as someone close by, telescoping God. And a person's

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maturity and walk with God is often displayed in these characters being evident. Upright walking,

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peace as in restful peace where you're in rest. Joy, not because things are going well but because

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you are full of hope. Joy is impossible without expectation. Joy is impossible without expectation.

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When hope is gone, joy is gone. Habakkuk 3.19 just talks about that, right? Though the fig tree will

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not blossom, I'll do cartwheels of joy because I know it's going to happen. Power and presence,

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which then means that if these are the things that define presence, it then means that the kingdom

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of God is really, and this Jesus said it so it's not some new discovery, the kingdom of God is

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really the presence of God in your life or in our midst. Where do we read this? We read about it in

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1 Corinthians 14 20 and Romans 14 17. What does it say? The first one says the kingdom of God is

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not about talk but is about power. What does Romans 14 17 say? The kingdom of God is not about eating

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or drinking what we should eat, what we should drink. It's not about that. It's about righteousness,

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peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. So at the end of the day then, the kingdom of God is really the

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presence of God in your life or in our midst. So when we say let heaven come, that yours is the

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kingdom, yours is the glory, one of the ways to make it evident is by cultivating this. And this

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happens when you and I increasingly begin to dwell in presence. Any questions? Yeah, how do we explain

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to a non-believer that they can now experience this by having them follow you? Let them savor it

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through you. This must be made flesh. You have certain things you're struggling with in terms of

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you're still waiting for physical healing, right? Can you in the midst of that trust the power of

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God, display joy, and be at rest? Do you know what that does mark when people hear of what you are

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waiting for and how you behave that way? Just... Sorry, go ahead. Can there be demonic oppression

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that can stop somebody from enjoying this? Yeah, but then we also have help, right? We can go and

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ask for help because there'll be others who can help us. So there might be demonic oppression

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that can prevent us from in certain areas walking upright because there's a stronghold that has

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become an addiction. There might be deep depression instead of joy. There might be torment instead of

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peace. But the beautiful thing is why are we given the body? Why the gifts in the body? Why the equipping

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roles in the body? Why leaders in the body? Why? Only one answer. That the Spirit of God who dwells

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in our midst is sufficient through her, through you, through you to help me overcome these so

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that I can engage in presence without handicap.

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Yeah. If someone says... The question Mark is asking is if you meet someone who's witnessing and they say they do not believe in God,

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and they have never felt him before, what do you do? There's so many different answers. I'll give you one that

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happened recently. Don and I met somebody who is not a believer who needed help for someone who was

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demonically oppressed. So here's God's solution to it. God is saying go deliver them, and once you deliver them,

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tell them who did it, and then ask them if they want me in their lives. Show them who I am. Show them the power I have.

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Show them the peace I can give. Show them the joy that I can bring into their lives. Show them presence. And once you do,

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now let them ask them the question, do you want this man or not? As in this man, Christ or not? This is something God does

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regularly. So the person wrote back saying... The person wrote back two things. I came to your church and I found the place

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so peaceful and you guys such a family that I've never experienced it before in any religious place. And the second thing the person

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said was, I just want you to know that the person we brought for prayer has been marvelously different this week. Can we

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meet again so that certain other things can be removed too? Show them. With us, because we have the presence of God,

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it's always show and tell. Jesus used to do the same thing. Go tell John that the gospel is being preached to the poor,

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the sick are being healed, demons are being cast out, the dead are being raised, and lepers are being cleansed. Go tell him that.

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Because John was asking, are you the real deal?

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We have the most amazing thing in the entire earth. We have presence. We are carriers of the presence of the living God and it

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never, never goes away. Never goes away. Never goes away.

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Sin does not drive it away guys. If sin drove it away, I'd have only about 15 minutes of the Holy Spirit every day.

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So what prevents me from getting into this? What prevents me?

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From getting into

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the Holy Spirit. And what forces me out of the secret place?

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I have these two pictures of, hey Brandon, can you throw it up on the screen just as a diversion before we go on?

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That's Tentan. And then I found someone else. Isn't there a similarity? Just go back again.

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Then I realized I've actually met him. There. There he is.

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All righty, going back to...

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I mean, people who actually watch this on video will wonder why that interruption came.

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What prevents me from getting into and what forces me out of the secret place?

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And the answer is not sin. That's the first answer. Please, please understand this.

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That it does not make the presence of God disappear. It's not an Old Testament pattern.

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Broken relationship can be fixed, but his presence does not leave. Just be absolutely sure of that.

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If we could get really sure of that, we would hurry back to God quickly.

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We wouldn't need two days to be good before we get back.

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Sin created separation in the Old Testament. The blood of Christ has forever cemented unity.

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Sin breaks down relationship, but that's the idea of confessing.

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The idea of confess your sins to God was not because God needs to be informed of what you've done.

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He knows it anyways. It is an admission that there is a violation of relationship.

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Things are broken down between you and me, Dilna. So let's talk. Why do you like cats?

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And then the discussion begins. And eventually it gets reconciled.

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So at the end of the day, know that there is no separation from his presence.

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So if it's not sin, what is it? I'll probably end with that for today.

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The emphasis is on the word probably.

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The reason we find it hard to sometimes get into the secret place and find it easy to be forced out of it is

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This is the main reason why I am not able to stay in presence.

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There's this deep desire inside us as humans to control life.

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Deep desire to control life. Let me read it as I've written it.

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It's my desire to control life so that everything is ordered, everything is predictable, everything is balanced.

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Because of my desire to control, I worry, I get frustrated, I become bitter, I need attention, I feel guilty about not doing more.

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I fret to find another way. And my mind becomes a battleground of doubt, conflict, anxiety and distrust.

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Let me write that down. It is a reason. This is what drives us out or prevents us. It's not sin.

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So let me write that down. It'll take a while.

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It is my desire to control life so that everything is ordered, predictable.

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As in I know what's going to happen then.

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Ordered, predictable, balanced.

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There are no surprises.

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Because of my desire to control, I then worry, get frustrated, become bitter, need attention.

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Feel guilty about not doing enough.

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I fret to find another way.

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I fret to find another way.

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I fret to find another way.

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And my mind becomes a battleground of doubt, conflict, anxiety and distrust.

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What is lost? An awareness of presence. Presence is not lost. An awareness of presence is lost.

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Any questions on this?

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Yeah, we...

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Yeah.

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What is lost? An awareness of presence. Presence is not lost. An awareness of presence is lost.

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Any questions on this?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. So we'll talk about that. We will. Any other questions on this? Especially the

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last line really gets me, that my mind becomes a battleground of doubt, of conflict, of anxiety

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and worry. And this is what has me lose an awareness of the presence of God in me, around me, for me,

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just kind of disappears. It's not sin that drives it away. It's not sin that prevents me from entering

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and it is this. Any questions? Any comments? This is what happened to the disciples in the boat. When

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the water began to rise, the storm happened. This is what happened to them. And if you say that this

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is not your situation, that you have no anxiety, no conflicting thoughts, no doubt, no worry,

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then blessed are you, men. So we are able to, we need to understand that the secret

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place and kingdom is only, is increasingly experienced as I surrender the need to control.

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There's a need, there's a craving that we have as humans to control. The secret place and the

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kingdom is increasingly experienced as I surrender the craving to control, as I surrender the craving

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to control. One of the things that's happened to us since the fall is that the chief aim of our

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natural life is controlling the next second minute, hour, day. And we do it in two ways,

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and these two ways are important. The first one is by exerting our strength to affect or create

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outcomes. And the second one, which is as sometimes even more sinister, is ignoring

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the responsibility of knowing his will on earth as it is in heaven. By sweeping, I'll

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go over it again, by sweeping everything under the sovereignty rug. So our natural life likes

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controlling every second, every minute, every hour, every day. If we can somehow control it,

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how do we do it? Either by exerting our strength, your strength, to affect or create outcomes. What

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can I do to create this outcome tomorrow? What can I do to create this outcome two hours from now? So

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that's one way we do it. The other way we do it is even more sinister. We just completely ignore

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the responsibility of trying to find out what God wants. And that then allows us to go whatever

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will be will be. And everything gets swept under the God is sovereign carpet. And then you don't

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have to worry about anything. You can just coast. Both are ways of control. One is an exertion of

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is an abrogation of responsibility. Both serve the same end. And neither is something that God

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wants. This is complacency to the nth degree. This is control to the nth degree. And both are

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terrible. This creates martyrs. This creates intimidators. Both are forms of control. I can't

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hear you. How do you surrender to what in a healthy way? Yeah, the thing is, who am I surrendering

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to? I'm surrendering my need of control to God saying, I need to control this. I need to control

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tomorrow's outcome. But I'm going to come to you and surrender my need to control. It is the craving

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I have. It's a desire I have to make sure that tomorrow works out a certain way. That is what

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I'm surrendering. And I'm surrendering it to him. And what does that look like? Jesus, I have a

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desperate need to control things. And I'm saying to you, I'm going to take my hands off this and

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trust you and trust you on many different levels. First, I'll trust you as a good responsible father.

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Second, I'll sustain it by faith, by recklessly depending on you. Those are the first two steps.

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Raphael was asking, what are the first two steps? The first two steps of this, I come to you,

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the only way I can surrender to you is if I actually think you are a responsible good father.

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My problem, O God, is I don't think you're a responsible good father. So help me, Holy Spirit.

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And then the Spirit of God takes you to the Scriptures. And he begins to show you the nature

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of the Father. He begins to show you the nature of how responsible he is, how much he can be

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trusted. As you read the Word, strength will rise. Trust will come. Faith will come. Because it only

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comes through the Scriptures. And then once you get to the responsible Father that I can surrender

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this craving to, the next thing is, can I sustain it by faith, by recklessly depending on you? When

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every time I want to touch it, I want to touch it and can I not? That is done by faith. These two

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are the essential first steps. And if this is not possible for you, it's just because of our skewed

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understanding of the Father, which can be fixed because we have the Word and the Spirit. Both are

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available. Both are available. And there's nothing greater to change humans than the Word and the

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Spirit. The entire earth is going to be changed. You have been changed. You are born again by the

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Word and the Spirit. He can continuously do it. He doesn't stop at salvation. You have changed so

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much. It was the work of the Word and the Spirit.

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Not really, because when he talks about not being able to do the question, is this a quandary that

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Paul is speaking about in Romans 6, 7 and 8? Not really, because in Romans 7, Paul is speaking as

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a Jew. He's saying, Who will save me from this wretched life? What kind of a man am I? He's not

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talking from the perspective of a man who is now alive and filled by the Spirit. Therefore, it ends

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with, What a wretched man I am. Who will save me from this life? And then Romans 8 opens with the

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crescendo, Therefore, there is no condemnation for the Spirit of life in Christ has set me free. So

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in that sense, no. But it is possible to be born again and to be caught in this quandary, where it is

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impossible for me to hand this over to God because if I hold it, I'll fix tomorrow. But if you want

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me to surrender this to you, Nick, I've got to know that you're a responsible, good father. And

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I'm not convinced of that. And if I'm not convinced of that, I need to go back to the word and go over

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it again and again till I'm convinced that he's a good father. It's surrendering the need to control.

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Yeah. Yeah. If you read Matthew 6, looks like a hippie lifestyle. I mean, it's a hippie who would

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say, Look at the birds of the air. And Woodstock had a few birds. And then they would go and pick

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daisies off the Woodstock floor and say, Look at the flowers of the field. Yeah, it is this. When

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you read Jesus's words in Matthew 6, they are highly irresponsible. Here's the thing. If you read

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Matthew 6, here's a conclusion you get. This is what God is saying. I am not saying do not prepare

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for tomorrow. I'm not saying do not make provision for tomorrow. Do that through prayer, through the

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instructions I give you, through diligence. But here's what he's saying. Dhillna, do not worry

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about tomorrow. It is the Gentiles who worry about tomorrow. But you are the children of God. Do not

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worry about tomorrow. That's where the hippie and Dhillna differ. Did you go to Woodstock? No. Okay.

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Just checking. Oh, you weren't born? Or you were just born? Yeah. I feel like it's the one thing I

00:58:49.380 --> 00:58:55.020
missed out in life. Yeah, but that's a different thing. Oh, he's trying to prove that he's younger.

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Okay. You and I are in the same age bracket, by the way. Yeah, for another year. Guys, the Gentiles are

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characterized. We used to be Gentiles, so it's not some kind of a racial term. The Gentiles are

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characterized by worry. The sons of God are characterized by faith. And God's intent throughout

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Matthew 6 is do not worry. Do not worry. Why are you worried about this? Am I not a good father? And

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the good father is not just limited to provision. It is limited. It covers everything. And the thing

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that we do, the thing that we are taught from when we are a kid is, hey, make sure you control the

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outcomes. Make sure you affect the outcome. And God is saying, can you not do that? Can you let go of

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it knowing that I'm a father? Can you as a child trust the outcome to me? Can you stop? Can you kill

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the need or the craving to control? And the only way you can kill it is if you know he's a responsible

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good father. And two, if you can sustain it by faith. Why sustain it by faith? Because you can

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think of a few incidents in your life where you felt you trusted and nothing happened, and now you're

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scared to trust him again. Sustain it by faith. We get an opportunity every week, every day. I'll stop

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here. Any questions, guys? Do you think you can try and practice this? It only happens to practice,

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eh? Don't pamper your natural life. It's dysfunctional kingdom living. Don't pamper your

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natural life. Don't take the other route, too. I hate this route. Just ignore trying to find out

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what God wants. Just keisarasara. That's not Christian living either.

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Do you, if you wasted time controlling the outcomes of life for years and now you begin to

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have this eureka moment and you decide from now on I'm going to straighten life out, do I waste,

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do I then lose the years that I've gone by? Sometimes yes, often no. When is it a yes? It's

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a yes when it's deliberate. There are people that have been told too often, change, change,

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change, fix, fix, fix. Prophets were sent, people were sent, writings on the wall were sent,

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scriptures were sent, will not change. Then there is the possibility that I miss out. But when people

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don't know, when the people are ignorant, when people are innocent, when people haven't heard,

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when people have tried and failed, the Bible says the years that the locusts have eaten,

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God will restore. Favor doesn't go away, presence doesn't go away. But stubborn resistance to the

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truth is always followed in First Thessalonians by a delusion that takes you off course. And even

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then favor doesn't go away, his countenance doesn't go away. He says, Jacob, this, don't talk to me

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about it again like he said to Moses, you ain't going to the promised land, but I'll show you

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everything else. So there are times when that happens. But that's if I'm continuously resisting

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him, continuously refusing to change. But otherwise, he always restores the years the locusts

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have eaten. That's a speciality restoration. Any other question? Comment? Okay, let's pray then.

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The things I control or the things I want to control in my life for God,

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either because I want a certain outcome and I'm not sure you will deliver, or I can't trust you,

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either with the timing or the urgency. And I usually have the means to fix it and getting

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done. I have the power to make it happen. You're showing this image of Jesus being tempted by the

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devil who said to him, you can turn these stones into bread. Jesus had the power, but he refused to.

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How can we do this, oh God? You're saying it's not, you're saying think of the positive reinforcement.

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What you mean by that is, Jacob, Church, you know what my presence is like. You've tasted it. And

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when you taste it, I see the satisfaction you have. Nothing thrills you more than that. Nothing

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satisfies you more than that. There's nothing you long for more than engagement and the sudden,

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absolute knowledge of my tangible presence. I've seen you enjoy it. Don't you want that more?

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Isn't it worth it? Isn't it worth everything? We, oh God, say yes. Yes, it's worth it. I will never

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take away my presence from you. My countenance, my faith will always be there. I'm not leaving you.

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I am not leaving you. It's worth giving up things for that. We want it, oh God. I speak on behalf of

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everyone here. We want it. We want the satisfaction of engaging, encountering, walking, expressing

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your presence. Upright walking, peace, joy, power, presence, knowing the favor of your face. Gosh,

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Lord. It is so worth it. That is what you want us to take away. For the sake of that,

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isn't it worth giving up the craving to control? Because every time you crave to control tomorrow,

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you are going to jettison yourself out of that space and you're going to find it hard to enter it.

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I'm just going to ask Dilna and Derek to come up and just pray and conclude. And I'm going to ask

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Kezia to come up and Dilian to come up and just pray and conclude. Come. Is Kezia here?

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Okay. You guys start. If they come, they come.

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Thank you, Abba Father, for this teaching, Lord. Especially for me, Lord, as a working as an

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accountant, trying to learn how not to control the plan. Lord, in the things Lord, help me to just

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learn to trust. Help us to learn to trust you more and more, Lord. We want to trust you more, Lord.

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Lord, let us be children guided by faith and show us how to be responsible also at the same time

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with what you have given us. Thank you, Abba. Let us take time to spend time with you in the

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secret place. And Lord, help us to stop worrying about our sin, but our desire to please you,

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Lord. Just time to spend time with you and know you are God. Help us to be still, Lord. Help us

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to be still in our secret place experiencing your wonderful presence. And Lord, help us just to be

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renewed and wake up. Renewed and be in wonder. Wake up with a sense of wonder and awe. And Lord,

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help us to move from periodic presence to continuous presence. We pray all these things

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in Jesus' name. Amen. Abba, we want to lay down legalism. Sometimes these are words that seem

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far away, but it's very easy to see how things creep into our lives sometimes. So Father,

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as a people, we come and we leave behind things that are not of you, but sometimes appear right.

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It is the right word on the outside, but it is not of the Spirit. So Father, we choose to respond

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to what you taught us today. To leave behind, Father, we don't want to birth Ishmaels.

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We want to birth Isaacs. Isaacs are those we want to birth, not Ishmaels. So Father, we leave behind

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our fleshly striving and the ways of our mind. And instead, like it was said today, Romans chapter 8,

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we cling on to the ways of the Spirit. So even for a second or two here, Father, right now,

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we lay down those things and we cling on to the law of the Spirit, the life of the Spirit

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as a church, so that our words are words that do not fall to the ground. So that our prayers are

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prayers that bring heaven to earth, so that we become a people who can take, you can go into

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Egypt and bring out a people to become part of the bride. Father, that's what we want. And then

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last thing, Abba, help us to develop a lifestyle where we don't control things. It's not a one-time

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decision, Abba. It's something we have to always go back to, to always consider our ways. And so,

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Father, give us this ability to never control, to put things down and to say, I can't, can you help

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me? I don't want to, can you help me? I don't want to do it in my strength, can you help me? Have I

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not, have we not, Father, over the years learned that the best we can do is still so bad? But when

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you are with us, you help us. So help us to leave our ways and to cling on to you, in Jesus' name.

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So, without actually imagining a face, can you try and close your eyes and know the favor and the face of

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God? Try not to, you can't put a face to God, right? I mean, you might think of someone kind,

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someone like me, and that's the best you can do. But so don't think of a face. Think of, think of

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what it would look like if you, if he shut our eyes and what is it to, what is he, what does he

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look like in terms of his favor, his delight, his countenance right now towards you? Become a child

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and then you will see. Become a child first, eh? Throw down your grown-up-ness, become a child. I'll

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stop talking in a second. Become a child and then you will see. Not a face, but you will know what

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it is to have his delight, his countenance, his face upon you.

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And when your eyes are upon this child,

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your grace abounds to me. Oh Lord, you're beautiful. Your face is all I seek.

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And when your eyes are upon this child, your grace abounds to me. One last time. Oh Lord,

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you're beautiful. Your face is all I seek. For when your eyes are upon this child,

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your grace abounds to me.

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I pray that whatever you gave us just now will be what we'll walk in for the next few days.

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And if we lose sight, that will come back quickly and seek your face again.

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In Jesus' name, amen. If you need prayer, as usual, there'll be people here to pray for you, yeah?
