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Podcast: Acts 29 Vancouver
Episode: Prosperity Gospel 2
Publishing Date: 2022-09-18T06:00:44-07:00
Podcast URL: https://acts29.ca
Episode URL: https://acts29.ca/prosperity-gospel-2/

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Check, check, thanks.

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Okay guys, so we start with Prosperity Gospel Part Two today.

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Last time we did part one, so it's important

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that you go listen to part one,

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because otherwise part two may at times

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not make sense in certain places,

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because we've already set it up in part one.

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And so, Prosperity Gospel Part Two,

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and if you wanna title it,

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I shall not want.

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I shall not want.

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So, go listen to the first one if you weren't here

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or if you don't remember,

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and then you'll see why we're doing the second part.

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So, we ended last week saying,

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there is this thing called the False Prosperity Gospel,

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and then there is the True Prosperity Gospel.

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And usually when we use the words Prosperity Gospel,

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we usually talk about the one

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that is not based on the nature of God.

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It may be based on a few scriptures,

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but it is not based on the nature of God.

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It may be based on scriptures,

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but it is not based on the nature of God.

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It is very possible to do things

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that have a scriptural basis

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without it being based on the nature of God.

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That's fascinating thing about Christianity.

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You can build a biblical basis for anything

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without building it on the nature of God.

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And so, that's how we need to examine this.

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So, the False Prosperity Gospel,

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the False Prosperity Gospel tries to serve,

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tries to serve both God and mammon.

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Some of it, if you listen to the first part,

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you'll see why.

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False Prosperity Gospel tries to serve

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both God and mammon.

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So, what happens is, again, it's so subtly,

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it is so subtle.

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You seek first and pursue the kingdom.

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You seek first and pursue.

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This is how subtle it is.

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You seek first and pursue.

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You seek first and pursue.

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You seek first and pursue.

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This is how subtle it is.

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You seek first and pursue God,

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kingdom,

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word,

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church,

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giving.

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You seek first all this so that

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all other things may be added unto you.

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May be added unto you.

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This is a distortion of Matthew 6.33.

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I have preached it and I have repented of it.

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Seek first the kingdom and all his righteousness

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and all other things shall be added unto you.

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It's one of the favorite Prosperity Gospel scriptures,

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thanks man,

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which then means that if I seek God first,

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if I seek the kingdom and the reign of God first

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in my life or in my church,

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then God will add all other things unto me.

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And that's a distortion of Matthew 6.33.

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This is why the false Prosperity Gospel

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ends up serving both God and mammon.

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You serve God so that you can become captive to mammon.

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You give money.

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You give or sow money.

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You give or sow money

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to receive

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and reap money.

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You need some water, Paul?

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Okay.

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You give or sow money to receive and reap money.

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Sowing and reaping is a constant appeal

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from the proponents of

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or the adherents of false Prosperity Gospel.

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I call it false because it's not fully true,

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so why not call it false?

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Nothing wrong with sowing and reaping,

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it's a biblical principle.

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But one of the things Jesus said,

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and when I found that verse,

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and I found it late in my life,

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when I found that verse, it blew my mind.

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Look at the birds of the air,

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they neither sow nor reap,

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but the Father provides for them.

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That just took the breath out of me, man.

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So you give or sow money to receive and reap money.

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By the way, I'm not preaching to people who are not generous.

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This church is one of the most generous churches I've met.

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I know of your generosity.

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I hear stories about your generosity.

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Some of you don't even speak about it, the others,

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but others come and tell me what Dilna did in Wally

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or the number of ministries that you support

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in different parts of the world

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that sometimes has nothing to do with Acts 29,

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and yet you're giving it Acts 29 is splendid too.

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So these are things that you do.

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So I'm not speaking to a group of guys

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that are not generous.

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So this is not about generosity,

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increasing your generosity or increasing your giving.

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This is about an extreme way of living

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that is free from mammon.

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Once life is free from mammon, anything is possible.

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The greatest limitation as we go down this road,

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you'll see one of the greatest limitation in our lives

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is our beholdenness, beholdenness to mammon.

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Subtly, covertly, sometimes overtly.

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That's the intent here.

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The intent is not to try and make you more generous

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because like I said, I'm a recipient of your generosity too,

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so I know that this church is a generous church.

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So you give money or sow money to receive and reap money,

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and this is why ministries end up peddling gifts,

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peddling cloth, peddling oil.

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Because once you start this process, it's never ending.

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So it makes ministries peddle their gifts.

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It makes ministries and ministers lie.

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It makes them jockey for favor.

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It makes them amass the wealth of others.

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It's very rare that you find a prosperity gospel preacher

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who does not engage in some kind of peddling.

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There are exceptions, I'm not saying no,

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but most end up peddling, either their gifts

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or some kind of wear, W-A-R-E.

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Philippians 417 is not the engine.

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Philippians 417 is such a cool verse.

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I don't know why I find scriptures very late in life.

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Philippians 417, it says, Paul is saying to the Philippians,

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not that I seek the gift, but I seek the fruit

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that increases to your credit.

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Not that I seek the gift.

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He's just talked to them about needs in the churches

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he's ministering to.

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And then he says, but I want you to know that even as I ask

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you to supply these needs, I need you to know

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that I do not seek your gift, but I seek fruit

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that will be credited to your account.

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As in, I want you to increase.

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I do not seek the gift.

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Or in other words, I'm not seeking your cash,

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I'm seeking your crown.

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I'm not seeking your cash, I'm seeking your crown.

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What if every minister, every pastor, every person

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in this church began to think like this?

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That even when you ask for a need, you don't think of it

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as a gift to you, but you see it as something

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that is credited to the other person's account.

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And when you begin to see it that way,

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you'll be able to pray it that way.

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Just minutes ago, someone just interacted me 150 bucks,

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saying, Jacob, thank you for this and this and this.

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Do I receive it as a gift?

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Or do I respond to her saying, I credit it as fruit

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to your account, may you increase in this, this and this?

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I remember, this happened in Acts 20 and many years ago,

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where I wanted to teach someone about giving first fruits,

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but they were scared of giving first fruits.

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And I knew it was critical for them to learn first fruits

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because it would help them tremendously in the future.

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So I actually went and told them,

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I want you to give me first fruits.

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And so they wrote a check and gave me the first fruits.

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And then for the next few months,

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I would pay off a certain payment

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that they had to make every month.

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And the reason I did that was, one, if it was a gift,

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then I should keep it to myself.

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But the intent was, can I teach you this principle

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so that you prosper for the rest of your life?

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And I would make sure that I would pay off

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a certain payment every monthly payment at payoff

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so that the money would return to them,

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but they would never forget the principle of first fruits.

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What if we thought like this?

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Now, even when you receive a gift,

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you begin to credit it to their account.

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The prosperity gospel does not think like this.

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The false prosperity gospel seeks ways

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to have money flow into your life,

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not money flow through your life.

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Money flow into your life,

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not through your life.

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And the reason the prosperity gospel,

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the false prosperity gospel is so addictive

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is because it is driven by lack.

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It is driven by lack.

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It is driven by lack,

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and it is driven by a distorted or redacted,

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as in reduced, redacted

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view of the goodness of God,

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view of the goodness of the Father.

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It is addictive.

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It wouldn't have lasted as long as it has lasted

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if it wasn't addictive.

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People will give hoping that,

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it's almost like Christian lottery.

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This time if I sow, maybe this month,

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it'll come back.

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And so we keep getting pulled in by the guy who says,

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today's the seventh of July,

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so if you give seven bucks or 77 bucks

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or any multiple of 77,

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God is gonna bless you.

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Really, God had to wait till July 7th?

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July 17th is a better date.

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Thanks, Paul.

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Paul is new.

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Any questions before we go on to what is true?

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We spoke some more about this last time.

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Any questions?

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No?

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Is it okay to say you've sown seed by faith?

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Is it okay to?

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Yeah.

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Over and across the place?

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Yeah.

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So I should not ask you to sow seed by faith.

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I should not ask you to sow seed by faith.

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I should not say sow seed by faith.

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But if you sow seed by faith, that's fine.

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But I should not say sow seed by faith

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so that if you sow seed by faith,

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even though you don't have it, God will reward you.

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I should not ask you that.

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You should do it because it's a prompting

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from the Holy Spirit within you.

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But when I use that,

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then I'm going against 2 Corinthians 9 where it says,

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do not give out a compulsion, necessity, obligation,

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or any arm twisting.

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Give cheerfully.

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So if an act of faith in giving

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what I presently don't have but I promise it

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because it's an act of faith that I do cheerfully from within,

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prompted by the Spirit, it's different.

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But when I cajole you into doing it,

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then I'm asking you to go against 2 Corinthians 9.

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And it says, give according to what you have

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and not according to what you don't have.

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And it says that give according to what you have

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and even if you have a desire to give and you don't have it,

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God will receive it based on your desire to give

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even though you don't have it.

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But let it be prompted out of you.

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Let it not be prompted by an external pressure.

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When I was in Bahrain and I needed a,

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I remember going up to my boss

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and before going up to my boss,

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church service was on and I had to speak to my boss

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about a raise but before I went to my boss,

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I already paid my tithes,

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which was what I believed in then, paying my tithes.

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I paid my tithes on the salary I expected,

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not on the salary that I was receiving.

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But that was not prompted by the church.

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The church didn't say,

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if you want the Lord to increase your salary,

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give on what you expect.

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No, it was me saying, Father,

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I really know that you want to bless and prosper.

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So let me just go and pay it on what I'm going to receive,

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not on what I was receiving.

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And then I wished I had paid more.

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Now let's look at the true prosperity gospel.

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Because this is not a God who doesn't like

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prospering his children.

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But his reasons are very different, right?

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Prosperity gospel, true.

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So we start with the premise,

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and this is where it gets difficult.

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And this is where I believe truly that if we don't repent,

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we will not be able to move into this.

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I've been repenting since yesterday afternoon.

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And then Derek interrupted my repentance,

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so that was a relief.

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So here's the first premise of the true prosperity gospel.

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As a son, I lack nothing.

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As a son, I lack nothing.

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Problem is, this is not how we always think.

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We look at what we don't have and we feel that we lack.

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We look at our bank account sometimes,

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and we feel that we lack.

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As a son, I lack nothing.

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The Lord is my shepherd.

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I shall not want.

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And this is based simply on seeing God as Father

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and the Lord as Shepherd.

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It has nothing to do with what's in my wallet or in my bank.

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But our circumstances always challenge our faith

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when it is our faith that should challenge our circumstances.

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And if faith challenges circumstances,

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then the way you live will change.

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Because now you will attempt things

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for which you do not have the resources.

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That's the proof of it.

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Whatever I see, I believe.

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Whatever I believe I speak, whatever I speak I do.

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And if this is not the progression,

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then at some point my faith is not fully mature.

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So yes, as a son I lack nothing,

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but that's not my 24-7 way of existence.

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So when David says in Psalm 23 that the Lord is my shepherd

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or the Lord is my Father,

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because he didn't know God as Father,

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but we can say the Lord is my Father

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or the Lord my Shepherd, I do not lack anything good.

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I have to learn to inhabit this.

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I know it's an old, oft-repeated phrase of mine,

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but I have to inhabit it, inhabit it 24-7,

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like a child, like a child.

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This is what I meant by if I don't have a decent,

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if I don't have a really, not decent,

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if I don't have a really good relationship

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with God, wealth, and myself, limitations are imposed.

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Limitations are imposed on everything I do,

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everything I think.

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There are limitations imposed.

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As a son I lack nothing.

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Can I inhabit it?

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Can I inhabit it?

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As we go further, it'll fill up more.

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As a servant, you know, this is easier,

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because I think many of us are increasingly grasping

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the goodness of the Father.

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So in this church it becomes a little easier

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for us to be sons and daughters,

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and to understand God as a good God,

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and therefore begin to move into this idea of,

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in God I lack nothing.

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So it is who he is that causes me to say I lack nothing.

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It is not what I have.

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That is what takes the limits away,

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because in my Father there's everything.

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Jesus lived like this, taught like this,

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and whenever required he would be able to pull

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what he needed from the Father.

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He pulled what he needed from the Father,

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not through a promise, not through some position

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that he had with the Father.

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He pulled things from his Father

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because he knew the nature of his Father.

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Once you know the nature of the Father,

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you know what he will supply, when he will supply,

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what he will supply for, how much he will supply.

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All the limits are off, all the bets are off,

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because now you know that Father's nature.

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It's like,

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yeah, if you were interested in planes, coffee,

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or good chocolate, I'd buy it for you,

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because now you know the nature of the person who's giving.

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So you know in this area, it's most likely that I'll score.

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Why is it planes?

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Yeah, toy planes.

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The next one is the more difficult one.

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As a servant, I mean, ask Don

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how many tickets I've given him for his birthday.

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As a servant, Don, don't say a word.

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As a servant, I own nothing.

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This is the hard part.

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As a servant, I own nothing.

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As a son, I lack nothing I can handle,

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because I'm getting to know the Father better.

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I know his goodness, I know his nature.

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But as a servant, I lack nothing.

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Sorry, as a servant, I own nothing.

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This is where it gets really difficult,

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because here are the things that you are as a servant.

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You're totally dependent on your master.

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You're totally dependent on your master.

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You're subject to his commands 24-7,

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so you have to do what he tells you to,

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trusting that he will resource you

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for what he tells you to.

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And you have to steward everything on his behalf,

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as in you can't do what you want

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with what he has given you.

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You have to steward everything on his behalf.

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This is where it gets difficult.

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This one is easy, this one is difficult.

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To say to you that all that I have in my bank

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and all that I have in my home

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and all that I have to my name, I do not own,

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is also saying that I may have to give it away.

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It's an extreme way of living, but it is extreme.

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Let me rephrase it.

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It's a Jesus way of living, and it happens to be extreme.

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I own nothing.

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And if for a second I think that I have reached there,

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then the question you need to ask me is,

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do all your possessions, or your wealth and your possessions,

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do all your wealth and possessions

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belong to Christ and the church?

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And the church.

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Do all your possessions and wealth belong to Christ?

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And because Christ is the head and the church is the body,

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does it belong to Christ and the church?

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It cannot be coerced, cannot be legislated.

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You cannot be forced to,

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because that's when you become a cult.

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But it's a decision that I have to make inside.

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Does all my possession, does all my money in the bank

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belong to Christ and to the church?

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And now let's make the church something else, and to you.

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Because a son lacks nothing, a servant owns nothing.

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And my hope is that I can keep increasing

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in saying that, yeah.

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It belongs to the church and belongs to Christ,

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because it can't be one only, it has to be both.

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It's very sobering, man.

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Because the master who saved us lived like this.

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Lived like this when he was human,

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lived like this since he rose and went back to heaven.

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Until we begin to think like this,

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we will never get there,

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we gotta begin to think like this.

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Thought then becomes, your thinking becomes a hammer

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that keeps chiseling away at this thing called

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self-preservation and self-sufficiency and self-care.

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Nothing wrong with any of them.

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Actually, there's something wrong with self-preservation,

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but nothing wrong with self-care.

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So what happens then is, I am supposed to place

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possessions and wealth in the hands

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of the invisible Christ

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and at the feet

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of the visible church, of the visible body.

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So that God can distribute it,

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so that God can distribute it,

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and people can access it.

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We'll pause for questions a little later.

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Another question that I must keep asking myself is,

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am I, and I'm not talking about quantity,

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am I the most generous person at Acts 29?

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Am I the most generous person at Acts 29?

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Oh, sorry.

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Am I the most generous person at Acts 29?

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And anyone who leads must be.

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If he's not, then he better pull up his socks.

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Any of, anyone who's a leader must be,

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because if you're not, you need to pull up your socks.

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Now who is the leader?

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Because God doesn't make leaders and followers.

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He just makes people that can one day lead.

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It's only a matter of time.

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He makes sons and servants.

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He does not make leaders and followers.

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That's another system we have borrowed from the world,

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where we have leaders and followers in Christendom,

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when there are no leaders and followers.

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There are sons and servants who are promoted

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because they are faithful,

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not because of their talents or gifts.

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Does that be clear once and for all?

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God only creates those in his image.

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He created for himself us,

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but he gave us a model in Jesus.

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Jesus was a son and a servant, and he had to be faithful.

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That's the same criteria now.

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There are no leaders or followers.

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That's a false dichotomy that we have created,

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and it's just a continuance of the clergy-lady divide

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that Catholicism brought in.

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And it's not based on gifts.

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It's based on the following of the Holy Spirit

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and faithfulness to what he's called us to.

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But are you the most generous person at Acts 29?

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That's another question you have to ask yourself.

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And generous is not quantity.

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Because a guy who has 100 can give 98.

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What if you have only 10?

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Your only aim and my only aim then, and I love this.

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I've said it many times and I love this.

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Our only aim is that we become, that I become,

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that you become the largest conduit,

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largest pipe or conduit

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through which money can flow.

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Through which money can flow so God can supply others.

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This is the true prosperity gospel.

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The largest pipe, I mean these are very unbiblical words,

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largest pipe you'll never find in the Bible.

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You become the largest pipe through which money can flow

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so God can supply others.

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That is the nature of the prosperity gospel.

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Proverbs 11, 24 and 25.

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Proverbs 11, 24 and 25.

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Proverbs 11, 24 and 25.

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Here's what it says.

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One man gives freely yet gains even more.

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Some versions say one man scatters freely

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yet gains even more.

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Another withholds unduly but comes to poverty.

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A generous man will prosper.

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He who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.

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He who refreshes others, it's always been,

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the prosperity gospel has always been about others.

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If that is your motive, that father shower me with money

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so that I may become a distributor of all of it.

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Then it's different.

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So the true prosperity gospel will always seek

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to have money flow through your life, through your life.

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It's Luke 6, 34 on repeat.

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What does Luke 6, 34 say?

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You have received freely, give freely.

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And if you do, I'll pour more into your laps,

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press down, shaken together and running over

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so you can generously supply more.

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And it's Luke 6, 34 on repeat.

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We've said this about the church,

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we say this about money too,

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we say this about anything that has to do with God.

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Anything that is full must be emptied

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so that it may be filled again.

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Anything that is full must be emptied

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that it may be filled again.

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Anything that is full must be emptied

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so that it may be filled again.

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Otherwise, it will get stagnant.

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It will turn into maggots.

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And that goes for finances.

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It even goes for the Holy Spirit.

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Holy Spirit gets quite annoyed when there's no outflow.

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Any questions?

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Yeah.

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You were talking about leaders and followers.

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Yeah.

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And doesn't the leader say that you're still a leader?

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Yeah.

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Doesn't he say that he's a leader?

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Yeah.

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So tomorrow, you may become a leader

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and the ones that you lead should submit to you

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and you should be worth double honor.

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You should be, I should try and make your life easy.

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I should do everything in my power

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to help you live a life that is easy,

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not make your life difficult.

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But a day may come when,

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because I practiced that with you

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and I've been faithful,

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you now go do something else and you raise me up.

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But now I've learned 12

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and now Nick has to go through the same process.

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So the relationship between leaders

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and the ones that they have been placed in charge of

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should be that way.

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And that's what Paul is describing.

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But the amazing thing is there's only four things

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that Paul requires for leadership.

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Maintain good homes.

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Walk in purity.

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Have a zeal for God.

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Convey things that are taught accurately.

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That's it.

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These are the only four categories for leadership

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in the Bible.

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And they are so attainable

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that there is nobody who is excluded.

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Nobody who's excluded.

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Nobody who's excluded.

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You can be single, you can be divorced.

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You can be a spinster, you can be married.

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How are you maintaining your home?

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So Jacob, how did you throw divorce in there?

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Because a man or a woman who's divorced

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can spend 10 years after his divorce,

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five years after his divorce,

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living an exemplary life

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one must look at his life,

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not at the divorce only.

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In India, if you aren't married,

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you're not supposed to be a leader.

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Thank God I've destroyed that one.

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So these four things are attainable, guys.

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Purity, passion or zeal.

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Maintaining your home.

00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.640
As a single person, if I visited your home,

00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:04.400
would everything go under the bed?

00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:10.800
I remember you once saying,

00:32:10.800 --> 00:32:12.560
if I came to your home, could I look in your closets?

00:32:12.560 --> 00:32:13.400
Yeah.

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I've got so many funny stories on that.

00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:22.920
Dad once, I think,

00:32:24.800 --> 00:32:26.600
yeah, my dad was nice.

00:32:26.600 --> 00:32:28.400
Let me not say anything about him.

00:32:29.520 --> 00:32:30.360
It's just funny.

00:32:30.360 --> 00:32:32.680
I still remember when I found the,

00:32:34.600 --> 00:32:35.600
what do you fry things with,

00:32:35.600 --> 00:32:37.560
that thingy that you turn things with?

00:32:37.560 --> 00:32:38.400
Spatula.

00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.800
I remember finding the spatula in a very odd place.

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And the fourth one is conveying things faithfully.

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Conveying things faithfully.

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Not your own brain wave or not your own new theology.

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If you're a part of a people,

00:32:56.840 --> 00:32:57.680
what are they saying?

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Convey it faithfully.

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Can you say the four things?

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Yeah.

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Purity, zeal or passion.

00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:10.360
Maintaining your home.

00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:13.800
Conveying things faithfully.

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And when any of these are missing,

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you have to wait till it's caught up.

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Four-legged chair.

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Any other questions, guys?

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So you're saying cleanliness really is next to godliness?

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I'm saying to maintain a home that is orderly

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is a good thing.

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Because if I had four kids,

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I'm not sure of the degree of cleanliness

00:33:46.520 --> 00:33:47.640
that I could maintain.

00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:49.880
I would have to get rid of the kids to be.

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Yeah.

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So, it's not so much cleanliness.

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Are you faithful with the things

00:34:00.520 --> 00:34:02.680
that have been placed in your hands?

00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.680
Be it a little hut or be it a palace.

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Yeah, are you faithful with what has been placed

00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:14.120
in your hands?

00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:21.840
And you can't use her standard for her or for him.

00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:24.400
Her standards may be different.

00:34:27.640 --> 00:34:31.440
I mean, maybe Mike helps around

00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:34.120
and he makes sure nothing drops except grandkids

00:34:34.120 --> 00:34:35.400
and takes care of everything.

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But so.

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So.

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Sorry Mike.

00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:46.320
So.

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30 years from now when people will be listening

00:34:52.160 --> 00:34:53.000
to these sermons.

00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:56.320
Yeah, he'll be listening.

00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.320
Yeah, he'll be listening to it.

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Because sometimes we think that our way of maintaining

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is the way that everybody else should maintain

00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:15.400
and that's a false premise.

00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.200
It's different for different people.

00:35:18.520 --> 00:35:20.720
I can handle some dust on my TV cabinet.

00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:24.200
And if you come to my house and do that.

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Yeah, yeah.

00:35:30.640 --> 00:35:32.560
Either that or lose your finger, one or the other.

00:35:32.560 --> 00:35:33.400
Yeah.

00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:34.800
Okay, sorry.

00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:35.640
Terrible.

00:35:37.680 --> 00:35:41.800
The next thing with regard to the true prosperity gospel

00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:46.800
is that sowing and reaping is a biblical principle.

00:35:47.120 --> 00:35:49.480
You see that in 2 Corinthians 9.6.

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It says in 2 Corinthians 9.6,

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he who sows sparingly, reaps sparingly.

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So it is a biblical principle.

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But you don't focus on it.

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It is secondary.

00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:03.640
You don't focus on it.

00:36:06.080 --> 00:36:08.480
It must be secondary.

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And why must it be secondary?

00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.960
Because there is someone who is primary.

00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:14.440
The father is primary.

00:36:15.720 --> 00:36:17.160
The father is primary.

00:36:19.680 --> 00:36:21.920
When second things are put first,

00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.200
you lose out on the first and the second.

00:36:24.200 --> 00:36:25.320
The father is primary.

00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:27.080
Jesus said, look at the birds of the air.

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They neither sow nor reap,

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but the father takes care of them.

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Till I get to know the nature of the father

00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:39.080
and my relationship with the father and wealth in me,

00:36:39.080 --> 00:36:42.560
I will not be able to avoid these traps.

00:36:45.600 --> 00:36:47.200
Jesus was trying to say, listen,

00:36:48.200 --> 00:36:50.760
I taught you sowing and reaping in the Old Testament,

00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.160
but I want to say to you that there is a principle

00:36:53.160 --> 00:36:56.640
above that which is that the father is a good father.

00:36:56.640 --> 00:36:59.920
If he can take care of birds that do not sow or reap,

00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:03.040
why do you think that you have to do things

00:37:03.040 --> 00:37:04.440
to get him to do things?

00:37:07.520 --> 00:37:11.200
That's the crux of the prosperity gospel, the false one.

00:37:11.200 --> 00:37:13.440
You have to do things to get him to do things.

00:37:17.640 --> 00:37:20.640
But that's not the nature of the father.

00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:23.480
I mean, that distorts the nature of the father.

00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.720
Here's another question I ask often

00:37:25.720 --> 00:37:28.320
and the answers are up and down.

00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:32.800
Is the father that I know,

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is the father that I know embarrassingly generous,

00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:44.880
embarrassingly lavish,

00:37:45.720 --> 00:37:50.360
and extravagantly generous?

00:38:00.120 --> 00:38:03.200
Is the father that I know embarrassingly lavish

00:38:03.200 --> 00:38:04.920
and extravagantly generous?

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And the resounding answer, let me speak on your behalf,

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there might be exceptions,

00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:11.760
but the resounding answer in this room is,

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no, we don't see him that way.

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If he did, I would see it in your life

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and you would see it in my life.

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Our attitude to life would be different.

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This is not our 24-7 thinking of who he is

00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:27.080
and yet this is who he is.

00:38:27.080 --> 00:38:30.000
There's such a dichotomy between the God I worship

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:33.280
and the God I see in my life on a daily basis.

00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.240
Is the father embarrassingly lavish

00:38:36.240 --> 00:38:38.440
and extravagantly generous?

00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:40.680
These are questions I have to struggle with,

00:38:40.680 --> 00:38:41.960
if I wrestle with,

00:38:42.120 --> 00:38:45.080
till I come to a place where I actually believe this often.

00:38:45.080 --> 00:38:47.440
And there's enough evidence in scripture to say

00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.200
that this is who he is.

00:38:49.200 --> 00:38:51.920
But why is it that I worship a different God?

00:38:59.120 --> 00:39:01.960
Jacob, I agree with that.

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Is there anything that we could be doing in our lives

00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:07.560
that is only believing

00:39:07.560 --> 00:39:10.920
or that we're not experiencing that in this life

00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:12.160
as we should?

00:39:12.160 --> 00:39:14.240
Are we limiting the father?

00:39:14.240 --> 00:39:17.040
Are we closing doors or is it just believing?

00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:20.480
I think it starts with me actually thinking

00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:21.680
that this is who the father is

00:39:21.680 --> 00:39:23.560
or believing this is who the father is.

00:39:23.560 --> 00:39:24.960
If I don't get to that place

00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:28.280
where I begin to see him like this,

00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:30.360
I will not experience it.

00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:33.840
Even when he does it, I see it as,

00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:37.480
oh well, that was his mercy or that was his goodness.

00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:39.760
We forget the person

00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:42.440
and choose a characteristic or an attribute.

00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:46.200
When God is good, we say, oh, that's his goodness and mercy.

00:39:46.200 --> 00:39:51.080
We rarely go into that place of, but that is my father.

00:39:51.080 --> 00:39:53.640
There are things about me that my friends say.

00:39:55.600 --> 00:39:56.680
But what else do you expect?

00:39:56.680 --> 00:39:57.520
That's Jacob.

00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.680
They don't say that's Jacob's goodness.

00:40:03.040 --> 00:40:03.880
That's Jacob.

00:40:04.080 --> 00:40:09.080
And so till I begin to understand that this is who he is,

00:40:10.040 --> 00:40:15.040
even when he does it, I'm not able to suck the marrow.

00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.400
It'll be the sense of, he was good to me this time,

00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:20.240
praise the Lord.

00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:27.480
It's like getting 20% off at Bay,

00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.280
at the Hudson Bay, Sears doesn't exist anymore.

00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:31.120
You feel thrilled.

00:40:31.120 --> 00:40:33.800
You feel like you're getting 20% off at Bay,

00:40:34.720 --> 00:40:35.560
you're thrilled.

00:40:36.680 --> 00:40:38.000
No, it's much more than that.

00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:39.760
What if your father owned the Bay?

00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.480
Guys, one of the reasons we don't experience God

00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:49.840
a certain way is because we haven't gotten accustomed

00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:51.760
to thinking that that's who he is.

00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:53.480
We must take God for granted.

00:40:55.600 --> 00:40:59.320
We must take God for granted in terms of his nature.

00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.840
We must take God for granted in terms of his nature.

00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.480
Then, regardless of whether it happens

00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.320
or it does not happen, nothing changes

00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.720
because you take for granted his nature.

00:41:19.720 --> 00:41:20.760
What's the difference between that

00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:21.840
and walking in presumption?

00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:26.840
Presumption is when you expect him to now deliver

00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:28.080
on a promise.

00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.040
Contractual, that he will come through.

00:41:32.040 --> 00:41:33.240
I'm trusting you for this.

00:41:33.240 --> 00:41:34.320
You better come through.

00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:37.600
That can be presumption because he's got 200 other things

00:41:37.600 --> 00:41:40.680
that he's working in your life through that one incident.

00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:45.320
If Saul knew the nature of Samuel, he would have waited.

00:41:46.680 --> 00:41:49.680
I think a start would be the nature of the experience.

00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:55.520
Secondly, when we have problems,

00:41:55.520 --> 00:41:58.200
we are thinking of the problems instead of focusing

00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.400
on how God is getting us out of them.

00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:03.640
Go ahead.

00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:06.240
Let me repeat what he said.

00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.160
We begin with this thing of the nature of God

00:42:09.160 --> 00:42:10.400
and experiencing it.

00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:12.880
Then, when circumstances challenge us,

00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:15.600
we still hold on to the nature of God

00:42:15.600 --> 00:42:18.720
and the experiencing of it and wait for God

00:42:18.720 --> 00:42:20.800
to be who he is in our circumstances.

00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:22.560
Our circumstances derail us.

00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:26.640
I can be so pumped about this and tomorrow,

00:42:26.640 --> 00:42:29.640
let's assume $15,000 goes out of my bank

00:42:29.640 --> 00:42:31.800
and suddenly I'm thinking to myself,

00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.440
ah, shucks, that is when the nature of God

00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:36.000
should become even more evident.

00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.960
But how can I experience something

00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:41.640
when I don't even believe it is the nature of God?

00:42:41.640 --> 00:42:44.520
Every time I experience it, I look at it as an anomaly

00:42:44.520 --> 00:42:45.640
of the mercy of God.

00:42:46.680 --> 00:42:49.840
This is why inhabiting something is so important

00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.160
and you cannot inhabit what you don't think.

00:42:52.160 --> 00:42:54.080
You cannot inhabit what you don't think.

00:42:54.080 --> 00:42:55.840
You must think to inhabit.

00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:59.360
But think, I don't mean think.

00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:03.560
Think as in to meditate, believe.

00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:08.920
I was just wondering about whether he's testing me

00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:09.760
in this way.

00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:11.880
Is he testing the nature of God?

00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:14.080
Yeah, in that case, he was saying, hey guys,

00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:18.040
23.3% is what I want you to give every year,

00:43:18.040 --> 00:43:20.520
by the way, that was the tithing then.

00:43:20.520 --> 00:43:23.080
Just in case we thought it was 10.

00:43:23.080 --> 00:43:24.920
Hey, can you turn on the AC a little?

00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.680
So God is saying, but this is my nature.

00:43:28.680 --> 00:43:31.440
I'm a blesser anyways, I'll rebuke the devourer.

00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:32.760
But I've set some rules for you

00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:34.920
because your hearts are like stone.

00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:36.320
The Holy Spirit doesn't live in you yet.

00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:37.240
He didn't say that.

00:43:37.240 --> 00:43:38.960
But trust me in this anyways.

00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:41.160
But now he's not even saying that.

00:43:41.160 --> 00:43:42.760
He's saying this is my nature.

00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:44.080
I'm your father.

00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:48.520
I was gonna say I'm your father, darn it.

00:43:48.520 --> 00:43:51.160
And then I realized God wouldn't say anything like that.

00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.920
Okay, let's skip a few and keep going.

00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:06.320
Here's some other things about walking in true prosperity.

00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:07.760
These are hard things.

00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.520
Your security is not connected

00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:16.080
to your bank account.

00:44:18.080 --> 00:44:21.080
So you're not connected to your bank account.

00:44:21.080 --> 00:44:23.200
You're connected to your bank account.

00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:26.320
Your security is not connected to your bank account.

00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:32.920
Which doesn't mean that one should just barely manage.

00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:35.160
Because that's the other side of this.

00:44:35.160 --> 00:44:40.160
Everything in a message can be taken and used the other way.

00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.720
Oh, my security is not connected to the bank account

00:44:42.720 --> 00:44:46.240
so I don't have to worry about the security.

00:44:46.240 --> 00:44:48.280
I don't have to worry about the security.

00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:50.240
I don't have to worry about the security.

00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:52.040
So I don't have lanzer the bank account

00:44:52.040 --> 00:44:53.400
so I don't have to worry about,

00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:57.040
I'll just make a basic subsistence kind of a living

00:44:57.040 --> 00:44:58.200
and somehow manage.

00:44:58.200 --> 00:45:00.000
That's not what God is saying.

00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.240
God is saying regardless of whether you have zero

00:45:03.240 --> 00:45:04.920
or whether you have millions,

00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:07.800
your security is not connected to your bank account.

00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:09.200
If you're zero, start climbing

00:45:09.200 --> 00:45:13.040
because I want you to begin to distribute stuff.

00:45:13.040 --> 00:45:14.560
So don't stay at zero.

00:45:14.560 --> 00:45:17.520
So the first thing is your security is not connected

00:45:17.520 --> 00:45:18.360
to your bank account.

00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.120
And while I may think this,

00:45:21.120 --> 00:45:25.440
I also know how my heart and my hands begin to react

00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:27.080
when the bank account dips.

00:45:32.720 --> 00:45:36.160
The only one who is stone cold Steve Austin is Heidi.

00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.160
Doesn't matter whether the bank account plunges

00:45:40.160 --> 00:45:42.080
or whether the bank account is up.

00:45:42.080 --> 00:45:45.040
Steve, the stone cold Steve Austin was a wrestler, Heidi.

00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:46.600
Just so you know.

00:45:46.600 --> 00:45:47.440
Yeah.

00:45:50.080 --> 00:45:54.240
So for the last 16 years she's had no heart problems

00:45:55.200 --> 00:45:57.200
because it doesn't bother her.

00:45:57.200 --> 00:46:01.000
But it's surprising how when the bank account dips

00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:02.520
we get scared.

00:46:02.520 --> 00:46:04.720
When the mortgage rate rises we get scared.

00:46:05.640 --> 00:46:07.800
Interest rate rises we get scared.

00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:09.160
What if I could somehow,

00:46:09.160 --> 00:46:12.920
the day I, how do I know the day this happens

00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:14.680
when I'm no longer afraid?

00:46:15.160 --> 00:46:16.060
Just so you know.

00:46:20.520 --> 00:46:21.880
Impractical extremely.

00:46:24.080 --> 00:46:26.360
Your job is not connected to your livelihood.

00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:30.640
Your job is not connected to your livelihood.

00:46:34.720 --> 00:46:36.880
Your job is not connected to your livelihood.

00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:56.880
Because if we actually believe that provision and livelihood come from Yahweh Jaira,

00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:12.880
then it frees your life from all limits at God's disposal.

00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.880
You become at God's disposal.

00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:21.880
Is there a difference between provision and livelihood?

00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:26.880
Yeah, provision is what I might think.

00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:28.880
Let me explain what I meant.

00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:30.880
Maybe there's no difference.

00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:36.880
But provision is what I think I have in terms of money or whatever to help me live life.

00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:39.880
Livelihood is what supplies that provision.

00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.880
That's the way I was looking at it.

00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:47.880
So when provision, as in the money that I have and livelihood,

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are no longer connected to...

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When both come from Yahweh Jaira, then it frees your life from all limits at God's disposal.

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So you might say, but I'm not afraid of losing my job.

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I'm not afraid of this or that or the other.

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The thing is, if this is how I live today, I can drop it today and go wherever God tells me to.

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But we are not free like that.

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We are afraid. We want to secure things.

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I'm not saying be irresponsible.

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I'm just saying prepare your mind to think like this.

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Prepare your mind to think like this.

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This is why I appreciate what Derek did when he first got here.

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I remember him getting a job in Toronto.

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And he had been jobless for six months or four months or something like that.

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Got a job in Toronto. Good job.

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Guy had spent money getting educated here.

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And as a non-resident, you have to pay much more in terms of tuition and all that.

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And I remember having a conversation with him and saying, Derek, you can go to Toronto and you can get that job and you'll do well.

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Or you can stay here without a job and you will do better.

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And he stayed.

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That's when you know what you're connected to.

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I remember May 1st, 2001, standing on a balcony in Richmond.

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I used to live in Richmond then.

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And I just got a job at the province helping the editor do stories and stuff like that.

00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:17.880
I was thrilled.

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And then I also get a worship leader's job at a church in Vancouver, which pays peanuts.

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And I'm thinking to myself, which one?

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And here's what it says.

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Your work is with your God and your recompense is from him.

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And then I thought, there goes the province.

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And so I started working where I first began working.

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And the Lord said, just so you know, this is me.

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I want you to step out to your balcony and look towards the east.

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I didn't know which way east was. I was looking the wrong way.

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Because it was a bright, sunny day.

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And then I looked east and east was Burnaby.

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And then I looked east and the clouds have gathered and there's this beautiful rainbow.

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I was so sure of what God had said after that.

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It didn't matter. It was never a question of going back.

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Those are the times you have to figure out where your livelihood and provision comes from.

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You don't have to have it before you can be a blessing.

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You obey to bless. Remember that, guys.

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You don't have to have it. Money is not a...

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I've said this many times. Money is not a factor.

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It cannot tell me what to do, where to go, when to do it, how I must act, when I can start.

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Money must have that ability in my life.

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Money must not have the ability.

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I hate it when money does that.

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Money must not have the ability.

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Money becomes alive. It comes alive.

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It comes alive and it says, you cannot do this now.

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You cannot stop this now.

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You have to wait. You will not do this now.

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You will not go there now.

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You will have to delay it.

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When you know inside of you, even without a reymar word, you know inside of you,

00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:22.880
everything inside of you is saying, this is the Spirit of God prompting you.

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You don't have any promise.

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You're looking for signs. You can't get a sign.

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But inside you, you know it.

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And at that moment, money comes alive and becomes like a real person saying, you will not.

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It's a tyrant.

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Money is a tyrannical master but a great servant.

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When it begins to tell you...

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What I hate is when it begins to tell you, you cannot start now.

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That's the kind of control this thing has, man.

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And then there will be people who come along and say,

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it won't be a good idea if you start now.

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Remember the last time you started and you just completely failed.

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Hey, there's not a single guy on the face of the earth that has not failed with money.

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If you're going to throw my failures at me,

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hey, I'm as big a target as it comes.

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And I'm not talking about my size.

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Of course there'll be failures.

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But if you're going to throw my failures at me,

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hey, I'm as big a target as it comes.

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Of course there'll be failures.

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You think Jesus didn't fail when he was growing up?

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You think he always won every race?

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You think he didn't mess up a table or two?

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Oops, sorry, this leg is shorter than the last one.

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You have to learn carpentry. You make mistakes in carpentry.

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We just think that he was born with carpenter skills.

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No!

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No, I'm not being blasphemous. Don't look at me like that.

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You don't have to have money before you start or want to start.

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You have to obey to bless.

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After having said what I said, you have to obey to bless.

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You have to obey to start.

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I love what Peter does. Peter doesn't show any faith.

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Jesus is the one who's showing faith.

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Hey Peter, do sons pay taxes? No.

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But these guys are insisting on paying taxes. Yes.

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So here's what I want you to do.

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I want you to take a fishing rod. I want you to go and catch a fish.

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The first fish you catch opens its mouth.

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Hey Peter, there's enough money for your taxes and mine.

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And he obeys. He obeys. He doesn't show any faith.

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He just does what he is told.

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He's a fisherman.

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Money is almost never about faith.

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It is almost always about obedience.

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We use faith for money.

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Money is always about obeying simple principles,

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obeying what you're told.

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And that is what breaks the back of the tyrant called money.

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Then it becomes a servant.

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When you obey the master, money becomes a servant.

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When you obey the master, money becomes a servant.

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When you do not obey the master, money becomes a master.

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And the real master has to wait now.

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So what does true stewardship look like?

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Or in our case, true financial stewardship?

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Because there are lots of financial courses that are doing the rounds in churches.

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And they're done by really amazing people.

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What does true financial stewardship look like?

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It is the ability to be diligent.

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It is the ability to be diligent.

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How do you define the word diligent?

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It's being faithful.

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It's being hardworking.

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It is being responsible.

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It is being faithful with what you've been given in terms of finances.

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How to go about it.

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Directions.

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Find out from the master.

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Ability to be diligent.

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To take into custody what has been given to you.

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Then to transact and multiply.

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What God has asked you to be faithful over.

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What God has asked you to be faithful over.

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For the sake of the kingdom.

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For the sake of the kingdom.

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For the sake of the church.

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For the sake of others.

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This is true stewardship.

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Whatever you're given.

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Are you a businessman?

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Are you a pastor?

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Are you employed somewhere?

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Take your finances and begin to transact and multiply.

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And then you're going to be able to do it.

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And then you're going to be able to do it.

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And then you're going to be able to do it.

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And then you're going to be able to do it.

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Make money.

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And begin to transact and multiply.

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Meaning make money.

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I love telling businessmen.

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What are you doing here sitting and praying?

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Go make some money.

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Make money.

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And then use the money towards the kingdom.

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The gospel.

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The church.

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And the others.

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And others.

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Use it as in distribute it.

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Distribute it.

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Distribute it.

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So what was I repenting about?

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You know what I was repenting about yesterday?

00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:10.880
I told Derek this.

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I'm finding that most of the things I do, I do well.

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Most of the things I do well is not a sacrifice anymore.

00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:35.880
Most of the things I do well is not a sacrifice anymore.

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Yeah, what I was repenting of is, Father, I might be doing things well.

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I might be doing things better than others.

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But whatever I'm doing is so easy now.

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It's not a sacrifice anymore.

00:57:51.880 --> 00:58:03.880
When it's not a sacrifice, something about God, salvation, and people is missing.

00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:09.880
If we are to follow a master, our life must be sacrificial.

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And I'm finding that my life is no longer sacrificial.

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What I do, I do easily.

00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:19.880
I do well.

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And being completely modest, I do it better than a whole lot of other people.

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But it isn't sacrificial anymore.

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And therefore, it lacks the quality of Christ.

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It lacks salvation.

00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:34.880
My mic's going off.

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I'm going to change the battery.

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I think it's done.

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And it's not a prophetic sign that I should stop preaching.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Any questions?

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Okay.

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So has your life become more sacrificial with Remy over the last six months?

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Because any sacrifice requires a heart that loves more, that gives more, that pulls out more.

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Has my life become more sacrificial with you?

01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:28.880
Or is it, hey, come over and give you 40 minutes and give you some advice,

01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:32.880
and off you go because the next one's coming in?

01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:34.880
Is it that I give away?

01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:38.880
Is it sacrificial or has it become something I can afford?

01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.880
2 Corinthians 8 verse 3 to 5 puts it this way.

01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.880
These Philippians, he's talking to the Corinthians about the Philippians.

01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:49.880
And he says, these guys, it's such a powerful verse.

01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:53.880
It says, 2 Corinthians 8, 3 to 5, for they, as in the Philippians,

01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:58.880
gave according to their means, as I can testify, and beyond their means of their own accord,

01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:03.880
begging us earnestly for the favor of taking part in the relief of the saints.

01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:07.880
And this was not what I expected.

01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:08.880
And here's what they did.

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They first gave themselves to the Lord, and then they gave them of themselves and what they had sacrificially.

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And what I'm finding is, and the only reason I'm sharing it is so that you ask the question of yourself.

01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:26.880
What I'm finding is, what I do, I don't do, I can afford what I do now.

01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:32.880
When you become good at something, when you've done it long enough, you can afford it.

01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:36.880
What am I doing sacrificially? Because that's the nature of Christ.

01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:40.880
That is the nature of salvation.

01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:47.880
I'm not saying this applies to all of you, maybe four of you or five of you, but it definitely applies to me.

01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:50.880
What am I doing that is sacrificial?

01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:54.880
It is so easy to do things well, do things by the Holy Spirit,

01:01:54.880 --> 01:02:02.880
do things godly, and yet it lacks the nature of Christ because it is not sacrificial.

01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:12.880
So then the question is, Jacob, in your giving, is your giving sacrificial or is it giving plenty?

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Crazy, eh? These are the questions that Jesus would ask.

01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:23.880
Is your giving plenty or is your giving sacrificial?

01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:27.880
My answer is, my giving is plenty, but it definitely ain't sacrificial.

01:02:53.880 --> 01:03:08.880
Sometimes I'm not going to give you that, but there's also, it's not like I'm ignoring it.

01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:20.880
It's almost like, I'm not doing sacrifice, I'm doing pain, but it's not that all of these are sacrifices.

01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:25.880
Yeah, I totally get it. A sacrifice is painful if I don't delight in it.

01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:33.880
And so I can choose my level of delight, and therefore if this is where I want to give, I've stayed here now for very long.

01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:38.880
Now God is saying, can you delight more? Can you love more? Can you love me more? Can you love others more?

01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:41.880
So that this sacrifice will become delightful too.

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When parents sacrifice for their kids, they never say, boy, you're such a pain as I sacrificed.

01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:51.880
It's like, it's such a delight. It's very painful, but it's such a delight.

01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:59.880
That is how you go about sacrifice. So when Jesus lays down his life, yes, it's a sacrifice, but he does it for the joy that is set before him.

01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:04.880
And what was the joy? Pleasing his father and finding us. That was his joy.

01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:15.880
And so I can be here and now get so used to it, and it still might be more than a hundred others, but it's gotten to a place where I can afford it.

01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:22.880
Now I've got to step into another place of delight and another place of sacrifice.

01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:27.880
I keep becoming more and more like Christ. And that's what I was repenting of.

01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:35.880
Saying, how putrid is it that I have reached a place now where I can do this with the Holy Spirit, but without the nature of Christ?

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Very odd, eh? These things combined, you'd think they wouldn't.

01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:50.880
Because I have gotten used to it and it doesn't cost me anything anymore.

01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:54.880
It's like David said. It is David. All the land belonged to the king.

01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:59.880
Everything in Israel belonged to the king. And he has to offer a burnt offering.

01:04:59.880 --> 01:05:07.880
And he says, no, won't do this. It's got to cost me. It's got to cost me.

01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:13.880
We teach our children this. At a certain level, the child gives up two dollars to buy his mama a gift. Great.

01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:24.880
But at 18, if he's still giving two dollars to buy his mama's gift, hang him upside down.

01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:30.880
Pardon? You heard it here first.

01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:36.880
Yeah. No, the reason you hang people upside down, there's a very... I mean, it's not just mere torture.

01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:42.880
When you hang someone upside down, blood rushes to their head and they think clearly. That's why.

01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:50.880
I mean, there's a reason behind it. You thought there was no reason.

01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:54.880
When we begin to live like this, guys, a strange thing happens.

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You're the one who is responsible. God becomes responsible for you.

01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:05.880
God becomes responsible. He is anyways responsible for you.

01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:20.880
But as you think you're going to empty yourself, God becomes responsible for your expenses, for your provision, for your needs, wants, desires.

01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:28.880
Why? Because he takes on the role of father, king, bridegroom.

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When we begin to live like this.

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And the treasures on earth, your treasures on earth become moth-proof, theft-proof, rust-proof.

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Matthew 6, verse 20 onwards. Because you're beginning to live like the world does not live.

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You begin to live the life of another kingdom here on earth in this dark age.

01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:59.880
You begin to live the life of the kingdom. Your treasures here on earth become moth-proof, theft-proof and rust-proof.

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Meanwhile, you're amassing things in heaven, which faithfulness here translates to faithfulness there.

01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:14.880
But we'll talk about that another day. Let me end because we are 1.09.

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Dylan asked this question last time. And I just want to end with that.

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You save, do you save? Yes, you save to leave an inheritance for your children, spiritual and biological.

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That's a new twist, eh? You save to leave an inheritance for your children, spiritual and biological.

01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:52.880
That throws the spanner in the works. Sorry son, I'm raising this other guy spiritually. So you're going to get less.

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Choose a firstborn. Give him two thirds and give the others one third.

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Anyways, next thing is, next thing is, there's always a biblical way out.

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Next thing is you save so that you have more to give away. You save so you that you have more to give away without asking God to provide.

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You save, so you have more to give away without asking God to supply the needs of others.

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You save, so that you have more to give away without asking God to supply the needs of others.

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One of the cool things that began some years ago and I don't do it anymore because of different

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reasons but I started saving.

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You have that thing called, that thing where you can put money?

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What's it called?

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TFSA.

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TFSA, yeah.

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So I started saving, started putting it away and I was wondering why God had asked me to

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And then he said,

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Jigar, why don't you save for three months and then you come and ask me what I want to

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do with it.

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It was so much fun.

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So I'd save in the TFSA and it would grow, it would grow, it would grow.

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Sometimes it would be more, sometimes it would be less.

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At the end of three months or four months I'd go and ask the father, so what do you

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want to do with it?

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And sometimes it would be go give it to this person.

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Sometimes it would be go on a holiday.

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Sometimes it would be go send it to this particular church.

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And I would look forward to the end of three months because now I didn't have to ask God

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to bless the church with provision.

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Now it was, there was provision to give away.

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So one of the other reasons you save is so that you actually have real cash to give away.

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Here's a statement that I need to write.

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The desire for self preservation goes against, this is another thing I had to repent of yesterday,

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goes against the grain of Christ and the essence of salvation.

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True prosperity gives sacrificially more than I can afford to give away.

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And this goes back to Paul's question.

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These are the ways you experience the intervention of God.

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When it's me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.

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Pretty much, but occasionally you, occasionally you plan for things in the future where God

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And then you set aside money for something that he wants you to save for.

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Let's say you want to visit your wife once every month.

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You'll have to, yeah, yeah.

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Okay, once every two months.

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Yeah, you'll have to set aside some money for it.

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You know, in Bahrain there's this bank.

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It's a new bank.

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It wasn't there when I was around.

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It just started two years ago.

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In the Arab world they have these money pots.

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They're called hasala.

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You don't remember?

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I never had money there.

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So you have these pots called hasalas or something like that.

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I forgot the name.

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And so what this bank does is you can go to the bank and decide,

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I want to put money aside for my car.

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I want to put money aside for my air tickets.

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I want to put money aside for my mother-in-law.

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And so they actually call those accounts mother-in-law,

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this thing and this thing.

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And every month the bank will take and put it aside.

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It's this very simple system where people begin to save.

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It becomes like, instead of putting it in an envelope,

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the bank actually does it for you.

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The point being there are times when you save because God is asking you to put aside for something.

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And then at the end of the day after you put it all aside,

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he'll give it to you free and then you can give the money to me.

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So it works that way too.

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So at the end, terrible, prosperity, God's peddling a gift.

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But otherwise you're right, Don.

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Almost every other form of saving that looks to preserve my life at the expense of something else

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that I know I should do it goes against the grain of Christ

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and therefore the essence of salvation.

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And there's something else I'm trying to repent of,

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that Father, there's so much self-preservation left.

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It's prudent to save for retirement.

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But now to the prudence.

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In the prudence, I have to dig up the word prudence and find if there's any fear there.

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If there's any thought that if I don't do this, I won't be taken care of.

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Those are the things that worm itself in and they are absolutely worldly, non-godly thoughts.

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It comes from this place of absolute fear that once I turn 65, I shall abandon thee.

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And it begins to worm itself in and you're scared.

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So is it prudent? Yes, but the prudence has to be absolutely fear-free.

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And that is where perhaps our struggle is.

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Yeah.

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Last point.

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Okay, let's stop.

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Okay, so, oh my God, some people are watching the clock today.

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Okay.

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All right. Oh yeah, you didn't warn your daughter and grandkids that it goes long?

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I think most of the time was taken up by Derek Mohini, Paul, Paul especially, my God, he went on and on.

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Okay. Can we end on a sadder note? You're laughing too much.

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Let's just repent of anything that we need to repent of.

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Father, could you just stick your finger into one of these things that I need to repent of around this room?

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Repent is to say, I would like to change in this, so help me God.

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Can you give us, can you highlight something for me?

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I'm going to put down the mic, Father, we'll leave after this, but can you do it in two minutes? People are getting antsy.
