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Podcast: Acts 29 Vancouver
Episode: Life after death - Part 2
Publishing Date: 2026-04-19T03:04:44-07:00
Podcast URL: https://acts29.ca
Episode URL: https://acts29.ca/life-after-death-part-2/

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Hi, okay. Alrighty. Hey guys, before we start, I just want us as a church to just stretch

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out our hands towards Carmen and pray that just like she knows how to lead things and

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administer things in the world or in her job, that she will suddenly become the same person

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in terms of church and kingdom. Yeah, let's just pray for that. Father, for whatever reason,

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you want us to pray for Carmen and pray that that which you've placed in her, in terms of the gift

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of administration, which is not sitting behind a desk. The gift of administration is the ability

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to pilot things, to navigate things. Just as you've given her that skill at work, that this church

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will benefit from it and many things that we do under your rule or as a kingdom people,

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she'll begin to now begin to grow and blossom in it. So today as a church, we call that out

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of her. So as we stretch our hands towards her, we're doing what Paul did for Timothy, stirring up

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the gift and calling it out so that a year from now we look back and say, where did that come from?

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How did that happen? So we pray that for her right now in Jesus' name. Amen.

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Um, Emily K has an announcement. Emily, you just want to come up and make that announcement?

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No? You want to make it from there? No? Okay, well then I have an announcement with regard to

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Emily K. It's a birthday on the 22nd. So you can stand and we can sing.

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Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Emily K and Diana. Happy birthday

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to you.

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Emily K, we are so glad you're part of this church.

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Really? Cool. So let's go. Um, guys, so last week, you remember my prop? Where's my prop?

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Come my prop. Remember we were talking about, uh, lighting?

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Yeah. So we're going to have a little bit of a

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little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little

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bit. Remember we were talking about life after death and this is part two and we said there are

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certain things that die here on earth and then there's death and there's, we'll talk about heaven

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at another time. So if you want to take your place, yeah. So if you remember, um, last week,

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are you ticklish? No, just checking. So last week, uh, we killed a few things. Um, and what was put

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to death and buried at baptism last week, it was, um, Vivek's old sinful self, um, the fear of death

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that he had, the power of sin over him, and, uh, the law. And we talked at length about the law.

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These things were put to death in Vivek's life last week, but there might still be cadavers in

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his closet. Yeah. And there might still be things that he's carrying. There might things be things

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that he still has on life support when Christ meant to bring us back to new life. And so today

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we'll talk about what else has to be put to death or was put to death by Christ. And we'll cover a

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few things and then maybe next week or the week after we'll talk about. So what does it look like

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in terms of heaven life after death here on earth, but this, we are talking about the things that

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Christ already put to death and, um, actually you can go and sit and I'll call you back later.

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He looks a little sleepy Vidusha.

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You look disappointed, Vivek. You want to stay here? No, it's okay. Okay. So, um,

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what was put to death? Uh, and before we talk about that, we must understand he died as in

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Christ died to put things to death and to give life. Christ died for that reason.

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And so we need to take this seriously because very often what happens with the things that

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Christ put to death is we think that's nice, but it's not our reality. And that one day when we get

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to heaven, these things will happen. It's not true. Some of the things that we need to do must be done

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here on earth. We don't wait till we get to heaven for some things to be solved. And so here are some

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of the things we'll put to death today. Tony, where are you? Remember? Yep. So the first thing

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that was put to death. One of the things that was put to death that we need to really take

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into account is our fragmented life, fragmented life. So if you look at

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first Corinthians, 12, 13, first Corinthians, 12, 13,

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I'll read it from the message first Corinthians, 12, 13.

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It says that by means of his one spirit, we all said goodbye to our partial and piecemeal lives.

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We each used to independently call our own shots, but then we entered into a large and integrated

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life in which he has the final say in everything. This is what we proclaimed in word and action

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when we were baptized. Each of us is now part of his resurrection body, refreshed and sustained at

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one fountain, his spirit, where we all come to drink. Crazy, eh? Just listen to that again.

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By means of his one spirit, we all said goodbye to our partial and piecemeal existence. So

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one of the things Christ did is he put an end to our fragmented individual lives.

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And how did he put an end to it? By joining us

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as his body. He actually did this, eh? So if you go to first Corinthians, 10, first Corinthians, 10,

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10, verse 16 and 17, first Corinthians 10, verse 16 and 17,

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I'll read it from the NIV. First Corinthians 10, 16 and 17. Is not the cup of thanksgiving

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for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ, and is not the bread that we

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break, a participation in the body of Christ. Because there is one loaf, we who are many are

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one body, for we all share one loaf. So here's what Paul is trying to say. That listen guys,

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this word called koinonia in Greek actually means fellowship participation. And it's not an option.

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Fellowship participation. And what does it look like? It is to share something with someone.

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It is to share something with someone or share with someone in something. Share with someone in

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something or share something. Now that sounds better. To share with someone

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in something. Only in our case the sharing happens two ways or the fellowship participation

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happens two ways. One, it happens with the deity and two, it happens with each other. This is

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important guys. When we talk about fellowship or partnership or koinonia, this is how it works. You

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can't have one or the other. The very sense of the word means I must have participation and

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fellowship with deity and participation and fellowship with you. I can't have one or the other.

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And Christ is saying, listen I died and put death, put to death your fragmented lives. As in you do

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not have really a right to exist as individual fragments. You don't have that right. You can

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take that right but you don't actually have that right.

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He put to death our individual existence. This is why later on in the chapter he says, guys

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you partake in the communion. How can you go and eat with idols? Why does he say that? What's the

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context? He says when you eat with idols you're eating with the people who worship that idol

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and you are participating with the demon behind the deity. It says so. Read a few words later.

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It says so. It answers your question as to whether you can partake in someone else's feast

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to some other god. You cannot. Why? Because Paul very clearly says that listen when you go

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to another feast dedicated to another god you need to realize that not only are you in fellowship

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participation with the people eating the feast you are also in fellowship participation with

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the demon behind the deity that they are worshiping. It's not a cultural thing. It's a biblical thing.

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And so Jesus Christ deliberately put to death my right or ability to exist as Jacob the believer

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or Jacob the Christian. I don't have that right anymore. What did he do? He said hey I died so I

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could put to death your fragmented existence and in the process I have now joined you

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to two things. One I've joined you to me. Two I've joined you to others.

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This is not an option guys.

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Any questions? It's not even an option.

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And this is important to Jesus. It is important to Jesus Christ.

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So what should that do for me? I mean I know I've said this before and I've shown it but just

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for the sake of the teaching. Each of us is a ear, a nose, an eye, a mustache, teeth,

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and I a mustache, teeth, chin, hair. That's who we are. Yeah that's really who it looks like

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Egyptian hieroglyphics or something. But this is who we really are. This is who you are.

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And so what Christ has done is taken all this and put it together so that you now have

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a face. A face. Oh forgot the hair. So now you are part of a body.

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This is what Christ came to do and to insist on living like this

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is to negate something that Christ is asking you. It's wrong. It's not right because what we think

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is we are individual Christs that join together to form the Christ. If that were the case, Christ

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gets his identity from us. We are not little Christians coming together to form a big Christ.

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We are not micro Christs coming together to form the macro Christ. We are parts of a body

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and this must settle and I pray God that it'll settle today so we don't live like this anymore.

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So what does that mean? That means in you it should provoke

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a desire to participate. Provoke a desire to participate

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in the body. And participate how? Participate not as a prosthesis. Diana and I and Heidi know of a

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lady that used to come to the church we were at where she would come and then she would sit down

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and once you sit down you realize that her right leg is not real. It's a it's a prosthesis that she

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fits and then she would go home and when she goes home she'll take off the leg put it on the side

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and go to bed. She wouldn't sleep with it. You could put it on. You could take it off.

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Church doesn't work that way. You cannot be a prosthesis. You're either joined to Christ and

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you draw from the very like Paul says from the foundation called the spirit. You either draw from

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it but you can't go home and take it off.

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And so you should either two things must happen. If Nick is new here then on one hand Nick must

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desire to participate in the context of the body regardless of how new he is. On the other hand we

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should desire to include him regardless of how annoying he is. Goes both ways. He should have a

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desire to participate and we should have a desire to include and when either fails it harms each

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other. One of the reasons we don't have ushers here is partly because we don't have anything to

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distribute and partly because there's still plenty of space you don't have to move people to sit

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but one of the reasons we don't have ushers here is because everybody here is supposed to be someone

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who is able to welcome someone. One of the questions we need to ask is if I don't feel a

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sense of belonging you must question why. If you don't have a sense of belonging you must question

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why. If you don't question why the only answer you will come to is hip said something that offended me.

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We'll talk about offense. That is sucky

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but one must question why don't I belong and if you find an answer then have the courage to go up

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to a leader who you think is kind, gentle, favorable, oozing with love and very godlike and I can only

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think of one who's like that and just go to the person and begin to talk to the person and tell

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them why. Yeah any questions? This is important guys because Christ died for this.

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Yeah

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About the food of the idols. Yeah there are two scriptures the other scripture that Meera is going

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to read is going to say but when you go don't ask questions just eat. That's fine and that really

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idols don't have demons behind them they're just idols so we got to have hold both scriptures

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together. On one hand you have a scripture that says when you go to the marketplace don't ask

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where the meat came from if they serve it just eat it because otherwise you'll die in India

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within a month because all food is offered to idols there or you might die in the Middle East

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too. On the other hand if someone deliberately comes and tells you hey Meera this food was

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offered to idols then it's Paul says desist from partaking in it because if you partake in it you

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send mixed messages. On one hand he says idols are nothing because really only god is god on the other

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hand he says behind these deities are demons so we hold them together to come to a conclusion.

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So it also says but he wants

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yeah he wants that freedom can become a stumbling block to the other believers.

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While I understand that what about if I accepted despite being told I keep from

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not offending them yeah so in doing so they feel respected yeah and they're more open to

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listening to my beliefs. Is that okay despite all warnings so much against you?

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No because if I offend if I'm choosing between offending them not offending them and obeying

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a command and in those circumstances I would choose to obey the command because in obeying

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the command god knows how to take care of them but in not obeying the command and trying not

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to offend them but accommodate them it doesn't work out. It's not the offense I'm worried about.

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It's the yeah will they be open to receiving

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about god yeah surprisingly guys and I understand Meera's point surprisingly when it comes to

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certain things that we need to stand for you'll be surprised at how the world really admires you

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when you stand for certain things that you think are god's command and you won't deviate from them.

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I totally understand the tolerance thing like I've been in situations like this but the thing is

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if god clearly says no you can't if they are it says there you will send mixed messages don't do it

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so then the don't do it becomes a don't do it and so we don't have much of an option there.

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Is your hand raised? Go ahead.

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Yeah you don't so just eat it. The moment let's say I bring samosas and then I tell you

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that this is being offered to a Hindu god and I just wanted to celebrate the festival

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now you'll have to find a way to say I'll pass on it today don't feel like samosas

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but if it's not said then paul basically says hey eat what is placed before you don't ask questions

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but if they say then you now have a choice to make because in saying that they're saying we are

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celebrating our god we would like you to join us and then we go to 1st Corinthians where it says

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when you partake in this food you partake not just in fellowship with people but you partake

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it with the deity too and then he goes on to say at the end of the chapter he says I don't want you

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partaking in food at the table of the lord and then go slumming with demons that's the word used

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in the message so these are things where christ wants me to take a stance and guys it was very

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difficult for the guys in the church in Corinth to live up to this because they could not survive

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in Corinth without going to the guilds that promoted business in Corinth and those guilds

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you would enter the room and there'd be this huge statue of Caesar and you had to pay homage to

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Caesar and then come and shout things saying Caesar is lord Caesar is lord before you ate the meals

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there was no gray area there and to that church paul is writing saying you can't do this guys

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and so many of them would not be included in guilds would not be included in the chamber of

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commerce would not be able to do business so later on when john writes to them that you'll have to

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take a number if you want to trade for them it was a reality already so that's the context of it

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but one of the things that we have to make sure that we understand is that

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the thing we've often said i am not my own

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therefore i can now belong to christ but it doesn't stop there i am not my own

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i belong to christ i belong to you

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and when i say i belong to you i'm not saying i belong to you for three hours of a service

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i'm saying i belong to you for the rest of my life those are the three phases of christianity

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first corinthian six says do you not know that you are not your own you were bought at a price

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i am not my own and then it says once someone stops belonging to anybody else he can be christ

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belonging to anybody else he can be christ i'm not my own i belong to christ but it doesn't end

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there because he's now taken and joined us to a body and then it goes on to say i belong to and

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you look around the entire room once you like and once you may not like and you say i belong to you

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and you can't demand that often you can only offer yourself

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this is what christ is calling us to and this is something we have to decide

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whether we want to take up or not because he put this to death

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now you understand relational ownership this is a horrible word relational ownership as in

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if you belong to the body of christ you have to be able to say the same things that root said to naomi

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your god is my god where you go there i'll go where you die there i'll die it doesn't mean

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you're stuck in a church forever we're talking about the body of christ yeah

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we be is still in a body of christ it's in dimapur

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so we have to be able to say the same things that root said to naomi

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this is what christ put to death and this is what christ brought alive and this is important to him

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so one last statement before we go down and decide what we want to do

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you have to decide that you will initiate the process when you come to a church and you

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don't belong when you come to a church and you are new and you want to be there when you come to a

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church it is not only the responsibility of the rest of the church to make you feel included

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there is a responsibility on me to desire participation and sometimes i'll have to fight

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through nick through hip through daniel because the first three i meet exactly the people i didn't

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want to meet and then i think finally i meet a guy who looks old and gentle and plays the sax and

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there's no wind there also finally i go around and i meet prosper and prosper makes me feel at home

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but i had to fight through four people to get there we usually lose out after the first three

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because we don't want it you have to initiate second you can't be put off you cannot be put off

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you know what put off really is offense is basically my pride kicking in

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you cannot be put off because there'll be plenty that will put you off guys in this church i can

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put you off first and then there are another 10 waiting in line mark is smiling stop smiling

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that was not funny at all so and then here's the other thing that i want us to know

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my koinonia or my fellowship or my participation is with the body it's not with a leader

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it's not with a leader or a ministry or a teaching or a couple of people who

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like me and can help me

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destroy this way of thinking

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i'm participating with everybody i can't be selective i can't say okay this is exactly

00:25:46.320 --> 00:25:50.640
what paul referred to in first corinthians three what's he saying in first corinthians three stop

00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:54.960
saying that you're for a paulist you're for paul you're for safest who are we

00:25:59.040 --> 00:26:04.800
and so you can't participate or have fellowship with one or two that will benefit you or a leader

00:26:04.800 --> 00:26:13.200
benefit you or a leader a ministry or a teaching he didn't baptize you into a leader he didn't

00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:18.160
baptize you into a ministry he didn't baptize you into a teaching he didn't baptize you into a couple

00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:25.600
of really good guys who can help you he baptized you into a body made up of many parts that are

00:26:25.600 --> 00:26:33.360
still trying to fit and the crazy thing is god does not build with bricks he always builds with

00:26:33.360 --> 00:26:40.240
stones and stones take time to fit bricks can fit man stones don't

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any questions before we move on to the next one any questions

00:26:55.280 --> 00:27:01.040
the way we have to think is local body first and then the church in general because tomorrow you

00:27:01.040 --> 00:27:07.360
may leave so you're not this is not a way to capture a person and lock them into a church

00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:13.120
but you cannot imagine the worldwide church without imagining the local church

00:27:15.120 --> 00:27:19.920
you cannot it would be like me selling vacuum saying i'm a world vacuum salesman

00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:26.480
you won't buy nothing from me till i tell you i'm hoover or dirt devil or whatever

00:27:27.120 --> 00:27:34.480
so it is in the context of the local but it's absolutely translates to the broader but to think

00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:40.720
broader and not think local that is another mistake we make i must be able to call someone

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and say hey tell me about diana

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so

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i'm just going to pray that you were able to make that movie

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i'm not my own i belong to christ i belong to you yeah don't take on the pressure of it

00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:14.720
it's not easy and god doesn't take promises made flippantly to you and you don't take on

00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:24.800
god doesn't take promises made flippantly well so we'll visit this again if this is not something

00:28:24.800 --> 00:28:32.880
you want to do don't do it but if it is something you want to do then as he plays in the background

00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:40.000
just have a conversation with god and then we'll just pray yeah and you may have if you if you

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:45.200
think this is for you now you can stand yeah but after a few minutes of thinking

00:28:50.080 --> 00:28:55.040
father you put things to death your son put things to death one of the things he put to death

00:28:56.800 --> 00:28:58.720
is my right to live in isolation

00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:09.280
is my right to just be a piece of the loaf and not part of the loaf

00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.240
i want to read from ruhtaba

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i want to see what she actually said

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so

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ruth replied don't urge me to leave you

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or to turn my back from you where you go i will go where you stay i will stay

00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:01.680
your people will be my people

00:30:04.080 --> 00:30:12.000
your god my god where you die i will die and there i'll be buried buried

00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:19.440
so father this woman who was a mower biter said that to her mother-in-law

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so father could you just help us get to this place your son died to put us together

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so

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father would you free us from guilt if we can't do this right now

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you want to reassure us that i won't stop i'll teach you how but i free you from guilt if this

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is not a commitment you can make right now

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you remember the lines again and i just pray that if people are ready they can stand up it says

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i am not my own i belong to christ

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and then we look around and we say i belong to you

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so father i just asked that if there are people that want to take the step that they stand up where they are

00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:56.320
so we thank you father as we come into this thing called fellowship participation

00:32:03.120 --> 00:32:09.600
as we say to you i do not belong to myself i belong to you and then we open our eyes and we look around

00:32:12.320 --> 00:32:18.080
and then we look around and then we say i do not belong to myself i belong to you and then we open

00:32:18.080 --> 00:32:26.880
our eyes and we look around and we say as i look at mike as i look at jane as i look at

00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:34.160
chris and ashish and kamal with open eyes and with a heart that is full and enjoys people

00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:41.120
enjoys me enjoys way look around guys the last sentence cannot be done with your eyes closed

00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:47.920
these are the ones we belong to you belong to them it's crazy i belong to evan

00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.760
i belong to shreene i belong to sue

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so try saying it it's a little difficult but it'll come out

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hey berri i belong to you

00:33:03.280 --> 00:33:03.920
i belong to you

00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:07.120
kens i belong to you

00:33:09.600 --> 00:33:17.600
vignesh i actually belong to you take advantage starting tomorrow may i belong to you

00:33:21.040 --> 00:33:24.000
karen you're such a joy i belong to you

00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:25.120
i belong to you too

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crazy

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stop interrupting the service and sit down

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so

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next one the next thing god destroys is divisions he destroys divisions through his death he destroys

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divisions go to there are certain divisions that are traditional let's look at the traditional

00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:08.640
divisions first so you know you know tunie came to me after i preached last week and he said this

00:34:08.640 --> 00:34:14.080
is good because it's doctrinal and in a sense it is where we are trying to establish this is

00:34:14.080 --> 00:34:18.880
a doctrine that we believe so when it comes to divisions some divisions are traditional

00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:24.000
but they've been superseded by the new covenant they used to exist in the mosaic law but it's

00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:29.520
been superseded by the new covenant so let's look at some of them go to luke chapter luke 23

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luke 23 44 to 46 let me tell you what happens there luke 23 44 to 46 the curtain tears the

00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:44.160
moment the curtain tore a lot of the divisions in the old testament fell apart and here are some of

00:34:44.160 --> 00:34:50.960
the divisions in the old testament that no longer hold when the curtain tore the first thing that

00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:57.920
happened is the priest and the people became one so there is no longer a divide between clergy

00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.280
and lady no longer a divide

00:35:03.520 --> 00:35:10.320
because we now share the common priesthood of believers everybody here is a priest everybody

00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:17.760
here is a priest and by the way in a marriage the male is not the priest the male and the female are

00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:23.920
priests somehow we've been taught that the male is the priest so what is the female

00:35:24.640 --> 00:35:30.800
you don't even have a term for her you can't call her your congregation

00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:39.600
both are priests it's just that the husband is first among equals but both are priests

00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:47.120
so the clergy lady divide was destroyed by jesus's death we shouldn't reinvent it

00:35:47.120 --> 00:35:55.120
to put pastors or priests on pedestals pastors priests pedestals nice is a bad idea the

00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:01.360
the best you should do for a pastor is giving a give him a parking spot yeah anything more than

00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:09.360
that bad idea yeah so that was a late divide that was broken the next divide that was taken care of

00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:18.400
was jew and gentile jew and gentile and so how do that's in efficiency 214 efficiency 214

00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:28.160
efficiency 248 this could work out like a like a church in southern part of america

00:36:28.160 --> 00:36:30.560
where as i begin to increase my volume you play like

00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:35.520
we might be on to a new thing man

00:36:35.520 --> 00:36:40.080
so jew and gentile but when we talk about the jew and gentile we have to talk about

00:36:40.080 --> 00:36:51.040
other divides pakistani and indian republicans and democrats afghanis and iraqis and iranians and you

00:36:54.400 --> 00:37:00.880
israeli and iranian both have to be saved the same way there's no special dispensation that gets the

00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:05.680
israelite saved and an iranian not saved and there's no greater value placed on an israelite

00:37:05.680 --> 00:37:12.080
than an iranian than on you it's the same they all get same through they all get saved through

00:37:12.080 --> 00:37:22.480
jesus christ and it's the same value allotted to them so that's another divide that falls

00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.680
so that's another divide that falls

00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:33.360
what we're trying to say is i must you know one of the questions i had to ask myself

00:37:34.080 --> 00:37:39.600
some years ago is is there any ethnic group that you have a prejudice or a dislike for

00:37:41.200 --> 00:37:49.200
i was surprised at the answer that i had a certain notion about a certain ethnic group

00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.200
well it was like what else do you expect

00:37:58.560 --> 00:38:05.840
and you need to ask that question because it'll expose dark areas in our hearts where we do have

00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:22.080
prejudices and christ put it to death so ask the question is there any ethnicity one of the other

00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:28.400
ways to ask us and is no let's not go there okay so that's a question you need to ask

00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:34.800
and the third thing is there is no longer a divide between man and woman

00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:41.440
there is no longer a divide between man and woman galatians 3 28 galatians 3 28

00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:48.880
what are we trying to say here that there is no female holy spirit and male holy spirit that is

00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:54.400
the holy spirit who fills us that any gift that the holy spirit gives a man can be given to a

00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:59.920
woman that any ministry that is given to a man can be given to a woman it's at the discretion of the

00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:07.200
holy spirit and so we got to stop this divide as man and woman are not equal there are things only

00:39:07.200 --> 00:39:13.680
men do there are things only women women are not allowed to do it's not it's not it's not biblical

00:39:13.680 --> 00:39:18.480
there's order order is different from ministry and gifts we've got to destroy this divide

00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:27.280
galatians 3 28 says no longer man or woman greek or jew barbarian sithian

00:39:29.680 --> 00:39:37.200
so these are the traditional divides that were destroyed but then you have to ask yourself

00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:43.840
you have to ask yourself whether in this church because we can only start with our present

00:39:44.720 --> 00:39:56.800
situation in this church are there divisions between young and old

00:39:59.600 --> 00:40:00.240
poor and rich

00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:09.120
newbies and oldies please don't get offended by it because the newbies can get offended too

00:40:09.120 --> 00:40:16.720
it's just an easier way to write it i'm an oldie and are there other subculture affinities like

00:40:16.720 --> 00:40:22.640
i'm from this part of the world or i've been here this long or i'm in this line of work those are

00:40:22.640 --> 00:40:26.880
subcultures is it possible in this church to have this situation

00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:31.440
because in first corinthians 11 it actually dealt with this where paul is saying hey how

00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:36.640
come you guys come for a meal and when you come for a meal some of you start eating and you eat

00:40:36.640 --> 00:40:43.360
first before the rest come in you guys have kfc the rest come in and they get crackers why is this

00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:49.680
distinction between the rich and the poor so i would suggest to you that this does exist and if

00:40:49.680 --> 00:40:56.320
it exists we must again destroy it and that's what we're going to do we're going to destroy it

00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:03.920
because it was put to death these things are anathema for god an abomination before him

00:41:06.560 --> 00:41:13.760
and so one of the teachings i want to do either next week or the week after is how does a person

00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:22.880
that is 50 plus or 55 plus be productive and fruitful in a church like this where most people

00:41:23.120 --> 00:41:23.520
are young

00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:31.920
how does a for me it's a little easier because i'm the pastor so i get to do a whole lot of things

00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:43.120
but how does a jone a sue a mike a karen a diana a vane a kamal and an a heidi how how

00:41:44.160 --> 00:41:51.760
a bernice a vane how are they going to be fruitful and productive in a church that seems to be getting

00:41:51.760 --> 00:42:00.720
younger and we'll talk about that because it otherwise after a while it'll be like ah there's

00:42:00.720 --> 00:42:07.360
a young people's church we just come and don't have much to do that must change remember after

00:42:08.640 --> 00:42:15.040
three services ago jone coming and saying jacob i want to be a part of this tell me i'm ready

00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.720
there's a readiness but now how do you do something about it

00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:27.440
so we'll have to deal with that either next week or the week after

00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:33.680
there are three things that bring division in the church guys

00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:35.520
lovelessness

00:42:37.680 --> 00:42:38.320
callousness

00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:42.000
tribalism

00:42:45.040 --> 00:42:49.520
lovelessness callousness tribalism lovelessness if you want to read scriptures

00:42:49.520 --> 00:42:56.320
first corinthians 1 10 aficion's 4 1 to 3 first corinthians 1 10

00:42:58.640 --> 00:43:04.160
aficion's 4 1 to 3 and then of course what jesus said in john 17

00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:11.520
21 you know it's odd that jesus is sure that if acts 29 can visibly display

00:43:12.240 --> 00:43:18.560
self-giving intimate unity that he has with the father the people in richmond will put their faith

00:43:18.560 --> 00:43:26.960
in jesus jesus is sure based on john 17 21 onwards jesus is sure that if acts 29 visibly

00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:34.880
expresses intimate unity that he has with the father amongst them jesus is sure that if acts

00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:44.000
29 does that that richmond will begin to believe in him that's crazy but he is sure and he's the boss

00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:44.720
and he's the boss

00:43:48.160 --> 00:43:54.320
what he says there is hey can you guys have the same kind of solidarity it's a it's a stronger

00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:59.600
word than unity can you can you guys have the same degree of solidarity and intimacy that i have with

00:43:59.600 --> 00:44:06.160
the father and if you have that amongst yourself then many will turn and put their trust in me

00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:08.400
he's very sure of it

00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:09.460
so

00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:19.440
what does this mean then that ya 2.0 young adults 2.0 and young adults 1.0 will have to

00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:32.240
embrace the old adults 8.0 and 7.0 and 6.0 and vice versa that there will never be a feeling of

00:44:32.240 --> 00:44:37.680
rich or poor in this church never that there'll never be a sense of oh they've been here a long

00:44:37.680 --> 00:44:41.840
time we are new so we don't get to participate they'll never be one of the other structures

00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:49.120
that has to be destroyed is is it's some kind of exclusivity to leadership there will be leaders

00:44:49.120 --> 00:44:54.720
in a church and not everybody can be leaders but everybody in this church has a potential to be a

00:44:54.720 --> 00:45:01.360
leader but when an exclusivity amongst the leaders develops then it is going to be poisonous at some

00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:10.240
stage and my aim is to destroy that whenever it rises when it seems like oh that's a click

00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:15.280
and that's hard to break into that must be destroyed too

00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:25.360
otherwise it perpetuates itself these are things christ put to death you cannot raise this corpse

00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.320
any questions

00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:37.520
this has happened they have been to places where people you know you're the only guys who treat me

00:45:37.520 --> 00:45:45.120
like less than normal but many other places that i go to i'm treated really well

00:45:45.120 --> 00:45:46.880
you know

00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:54.480
when i go to those places i find that there's there is this divide that happens

00:45:55.600 --> 00:46:03.040
where it is like ah jacob and a bunch of guys around him that seem to have time and everything

00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:07.920
but we have to stay thank god it's not something here and we should destroy it everywhere so that

00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:11.760
it never happens eh gotta make sure that doesn't happen

00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:17.760
so

00:46:20.160 --> 00:46:21.280
erin i was looking at you

00:46:24.240 --> 00:46:24.480
so

00:46:32.160 --> 00:46:35.760
can we decide no divisions

00:46:38.080 --> 00:46:44.800
and can you i don't know whether the spelling is right tattletale when

00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:47.360
it happens

00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.120
can you decide that our distinctives

00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.840
will be secondary

00:47:05.600 --> 00:47:06.560
can you decide this

00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:10.420
yeah

00:47:10.420 --> 00:47:14.740
so father we come as a church and we decide

00:47:16.740 --> 00:47:23.300
that we will not spite your death i know it sounds like an extreme statement but the one thing the

00:47:23.300 --> 00:47:31.780
cross is is oneness same kind of oneness that the triune god has the father son and the holy spirit

00:47:33.620 --> 00:47:39.940
and if you want to dance in our midst you require us to make sure that there are no divisions

00:47:41.140 --> 00:47:45.780
and so we lay down our divisions and as i call them out father i just pray that this church will

00:47:45.780 --> 00:47:54.420
turn away from this we lay down the division of following safest paul apollos and swearing our

00:47:54.420 --> 00:47:59.460
allegiance not to you and the body but to certain leaders we lay down right now

00:48:02.340 --> 00:48:09.540
we lay down the division of any prejudice that we have against any ethnicity of people group

00:48:09.620 --> 00:48:17.860
and we will search our hearts for it we lay down our distinctives be it language be the places we

00:48:17.860 --> 00:48:23.940
come from be the education we have this is the reason we lay down our distinctives that there

00:48:23.940 --> 00:48:33.620
will be no other hoop that a person has to jump through we as the pastor of the church will will

00:48:33.620 --> 00:48:42.020
work furiously oh god to prevent leadership from being raised in a way that is ungodly

00:48:44.660 --> 00:48:46.900
that that distinctive will be broken

00:48:46.900 --> 00:48:54.180
so

00:48:59.780 --> 00:49:06.100
that acts four and acts two will happen in this church it says in acts four the people brought

00:49:06.100 --> 00:49:11.060
and shared things commonly nobody had too much nobody had too less everybody shared

00:49:11.060 --> 00:49:18.260
and there was fear in the city a favor on the people and then oh god you will begin to dance

00:49:19.620 --> 00:49:22.180
you always dance where there is oneness

00:49:25.300 --> 00:49:29.220
they were in one accord and you turned up in act chapter two

00:49:33.060 --> 00:49:37.940
we seek that and we receive it now in jesus name amen

00:49:37.940 --> 00:49:42.660
you didn't play it stronger when i went up

00:49:49.700 --> 00:49:55.460
i'm gonna skip temple and human wisdom i'm going to go to all authority

00:49:58.980 --> 00:50:05.220
there's so much to finish okay let's let's deal with two more and then we'll stop

00:50:05.620 --> 00:50:06.500
next thing

00:50:09.060 --> 00:50:18.980
guys um end to offense this is something he came to do a on the cross he put to death our right

00:50:18.980 --> 00:50:29.700
to carry offense c.s louis put it this way to forgive the inexcusable to forgive the inexcusable

00:50:29.700 --> 00:50:42.020
the inexcusable because god forgave the inexcusable in us the inexcusable in us

00:50:44.980 --> 00:50:50.980
to forgive the inexcusable because god forgave the inexcusable in us we don't realize that christ

00:50:52.020 --> 00:50:52.740
put to death

00:50:55.620 --> 00:50:56.120
your

00:50:56.120 --> 00:51:03.240
right to carry offense

00:51:13.640 --> 00:51:21.160
how do you do this you look at the sin that someone did against you look at the sin done against you

00:51:21.640 --> 00:51:31.640
you look at its meanness you look at the malice you look at the horror of it

00:51:35.560 --> 00:51:41.160
this is committed against you and then after that you begin the process

00:51:41.240 --> 00:51:48.520
of being reconciled to the offender

00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:59.640
but should i go and be friends with the one who did me harm again no but do you begin the process

00:51:59.640 --> 00:52:04.520
of reconciling with the offender yes what's the word reconciliation

00:52:04.600 --> 00:52:08.120
but do you begin the process of reconciling with the offender yes

00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:15.560
what's the word reconciliation erin will tell you reconciliation is balancing the debt a debt

00:52:15.560 --> 00:52:23.160
column with a credit column where it matches up in a ledger this is not a choice he died to put

00:52:23.160 --> 00:52:26.200
to an end my right to carry offense

00:52:26.200 --> 00:52:42.200
what does that mean i have to lose the desire to hurt humiliate

00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:51.160
or extract justice or revenge

00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:55.320
against the offender

00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:05.960
how many times do i have to do it as often as it resurfaces

00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:14.040
that's what mortifying the flesh or crucifying the flesh means

00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:20.120
crucifying it till it ceases to breathe

00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:31.000
any questions on that

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there's nobody here who hasn't been through it some of you through stories that are so horrible

00:53:40.120 --> 00:53:45.080
that it's unbearable even to listen to it but we don't have a choice in this

00:53:48.200 --> 00:53:53.000
he died to put to death your right to carry offense

00:53:59.960 --> 00:54:03.480
okay so i can say someone who did me harm and now

00:54:09.640 --> 00:54:16.280
yeah first yeah we we won't be able to deal with that part today today we can only deal with

00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:23.560
how do i respond to it yeah guys always seek the justice of other for others but do not seek it for

00:54:23.560 --> 00:54:30.120
your own self when someone else is harmed go seek justice for them it should be done with a passion

00:54:30.120 --> 00:54:34.200
but when i am harmed the first reaction shouldn't be i need justice

00:54:35.160 --> 00:54:45.000
okay pardon what about if i take christ as my example even that i'll have to lay down

00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:52.920
it's not that it's not my right it is that it is not my first response it can come later

00:54:53.720 --> 00:54:55.800
but if all if i want to be christ-like

00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:58.840
like first peter

00:55:00.600 --> 00:55:10.280
acts 832 he went he went to his shears like a sheep that was going to be slaughtered and he

00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:18.760
stayed silent and did not offer a word in his defense what good is it if you only do good to

00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:25.720
those who are good to you but you react to those that are bad to you i'm not saying there is no

00:55:25.720 --> 00:55:33.000
place for defense or justice in the hey i get i get emails i got an email this morning i won't

00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:39.480
tell you who it comes from not from here from the u.s. inviting the elders or the leaders of this

00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:47.000
church to register for a course where we can learn how to carry guns so that we can shoot people if

00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:53.960
they do us harm on one hand you think to yourself if someone comes in here and tries to shoot me i

00:55:54.040 --> 00:56:00.040
sure hope kamal will shoot him first but then the second thought is is that how desus would have

00:56:00.040 --> 00:56:06.680
reacted what would desus do where is the balance it's not a question of balance it's always a

00:56:06.680 --> 00:56:13.160
question of holding things in tension it's never balanced guys there are times when i have to rise

00:56:13.160 --> 00:56:19.800
up to defend others but to defend myself it doesn't seem to be christ's way does that mean i do not

00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:27.320
defend myself no but it means that my first reaction is not that this is the path or the way

00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:32.600
of christ it's an extreme way

00:56:36.600 --> 00:56:40.680
but if you see someone else being harmed you should rise to their defend

00:56:40.680 --> 00:56:43.560
him

00:56:46.200 --> 00:56:51.560
he was quite upset that nobody rose to the defense of the man who was lying on the street and only a

00:56:51.560 --> 00:56:58.840
samaritan did justice is super important to god but strangely it is justice for others

00:56:59.960 --> 00:57:03.560
and he keeps saying i will avenge you go ahead

00:57:11.160 --> 00:57:13.560
um

00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:32.600
yeah terrible terrible and then the question is so now what do you do thousands of being slaughtered

00:57:32.600 --> 00:57:37.160
but then the question is isn't that what persecution looks like for years on end

00:57:37.640 --> 00:57:42.680
and i don't even know how to answer it till you're in the situation i've been i've never been in a

00:57:42.680 --> 00:57:47.320
situation where someone's going to beat me to kill me but i've met people who are being beaten

00:57:48.040 --> 00:57:57.160
to almost be killed and when you meet with them they took the beating and their captors or their

00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:05.720
the people that did violence to them either god took care of them or they became believers

00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:10.920
one of the guys who came to pick us up from an airport was a guy who used to beat them up

00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:18.280
he comes in his jeep and he's coming us to coming to pick us up so would i would i suggest that what

00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:27.160
we do is carry guns just in case someone comes here and kills people i'm not able to suggest that

00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:34.520
and what about what she said where you have people being killed by the hundreds where it's only

00:58:35.160 --> 00:58:40.680
where it's almost like an elimination of christians this is exactly what was happening

00:58:40.680 --> 00:58:51.480
in new testament days the question is then do we avenge by shooting back or don't we and my

00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:58.120
my i'm not going to be humble about this my strong suggestion i was going to say my humble

00:58:58.120 --> 00:59:05.080
suggestion it wouldn't be true my strong suggestion is that no that is not christ's way

00:59:07.720 --> 00:59:15.560
yeah that is not christ's way i mean when john is on the island of patmas christians are being

00:59:15.560 --> 00:59:27.000
killed by the thousands have you noticed how in revelations 13 it says they overcame the devil by

00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:34.600
the blood of the lamb and the word of the testimony and they love not their life

00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:50.040
unto death what about um the scripture that says i long to know the power of his and his and

00:59:50.040 --> 00:59:53.080
and

00:59:54.120 --> 00:59:57.080
the chaplain knows the substance

01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:05.080
malachi 4 7 says

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just checking

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there is no malachi 4 7 it starts at six so i wanted to see if i could get him but unfortunately

01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:26.120
he didn't take the bait guys if you have no reputation

01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:36.040
and if you are a servant who walks in humility it is very hard to offend you

01:00:39.240 --> 01:00:45.560
it's very hard to offend you if you are a person who has no concern for reputation

01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:53.400
and if you are someone who is self-forgetful as in you don't care whether you're acknowledged or

01:00:53.400 --> 01:01:01.800
not that kind of humility is hard to offend that's your april challenge that's your april

01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:09.480
challenge for the rest of april that's your challenge can you walk you know in you don't

01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:14.680
see this here i was sharing this with derrick and i was yesterday or someone i think it was

01:01:14.680 --> 01:01:21.240
someone i think i'm not sure maybe it was not derrick narrows he in many parts of the world

01:01:21.240 --> 01:01:27.960
you have bond servants even today we don't call them bond servants but they basically come and

01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:35.560
work in your homes for a pittance maybe cleaning maybe taking care of animals maybe um washing the

01:01:35.560 --> 01:01:41.560
dishes or cooking they they when you see them they just stand there some of them are young

01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:48.760
um 17 or 18 year old girls or 15 year old boys they just stand there they're waiting for the

01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:53.800
master who pays them a pittance to tell them to do something or do that do this they'll go do that

01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:58.680
do that absolutely no gratitude they'll wait till you finish eating and then whatever is left over

01:01:58.680 --> 01:02:02.680
they go sit usually in the kitchen on the floor and they finish their food they're going to make

01:02:02.680 --> 01:02:08.600
sure everything is cleaned up they go to bed late and they get up early that is a bond servant

01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:13.880
when you look at them you realize that they don't care any bit about their reputation

01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:21.240
they have total self-forgetfulness they don't they don't wait around saying i did all this

01:02:21.240 --> 01:02:27.320
for you karen come on now thank me no self-forgetfulness humility those kind of people

01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:34.600
you cannot offend here's the thing they've got culture to it jivan used to tell me how

01:02:34.600 --> 01:02:41.640
how untouchables would be treated in india you have no reputation you have no dignity

01:02:41.640 --> 01:02:47.160
you walk in self-forgetfulness and you walk in humility and jesus is saying that's what i want

01:02:47.160 --> 01:02:54.040
you to be i want you to be a bond servant that's your april challenge that's my april challenge

01:02:55.240 --> 01:03:00.040
when people don't acknowledge you when people look at you strangely when people look at you

01:03:00.040 --> 01:03:05.720
and say you don't seem to have the right to come in here when people ask you to show

01:03:07.160 --> 01:03:09.720
your id to them because they're not sure you're the right person

01:03:10.680 --> 01:03:14.760
when people treat you badly the offense that comes up my god it comes up in me

01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:19.640
are you able to take that up as your april challenge

01:03:20.120 --> 01:03:30.200
i think that god put to death you do not have a right i do not have a right to carry offense

01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:35.640
then justice is true justice

01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:46.360
you know why christ can judge so well because he does not carry offense his judgments are right

01:03:47.080 --> 01:03:48.760
his judgments are right

01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:59.560
last thing we'll deal with and then we'll end with that and we'll do the rest whatever

01:04:02.600 --> 01:04:09.320
christ put to death sickness really take him if you put to death sickness then how come it exists

01:04:09.560 --> 01:04:16.680
christ put to death sickness go to matthew 8 14 to 17 matthew 8 14 to 17

01:04:21.080 --> 01:04:26.360
this this this master that we serve is an extreme person he's extreme

01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:33.960
christianity is disruptive revolutionary extreme it's not for namby pambys

01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:46.120
matthew 8 14 to 17 look at what it says when jesus came into peter's house

01:04:47.080 --> 01:04:53.640
he saw peter's mother-in-law lying in bed with a fever if you read luke 4 37 it says he rebuked

01:04:53.640 --> 01:04:59.640
the fever as and he spoke to the disease and rebuked it but here it says in matthew he touched her hand

01:04:59.640 --> 01:05:06.520
and the fever left her and she got up and began to wait on him when evening came many who were demon

01:05:06.520 --> 01:05:11.480
possessed were brought to him and he drove out the spirits of the word and he healed all the sick

01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:17.880
this was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet isaiah and here's what isaiah said

01:05:19.640 --> 01:05:31.400
he jesus took as in carried our infirmities

01:05:32.200 --> 01:05:40.280
as in disease as in feebleness i'm just giving you the actual word meaning or sickness

01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:48.280
and he bore as in removed

01:05:50.520 --> 01:05:53.640
lifted endured

01:05:53.640 --> 01:06:04.920
and he bore disease so the question jacob is did he really is this true can you believe it or can

01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:12.760
you not that's a question and this question is something that you will have to wrestle through

01:06:13.560 --> 01:06:17.480
nobody can wrestle this through for you but this is the question

01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:26.200
he as in jesus took as in carried our infirmities as in our sickness and our weakness and he bore

01:06:26.200 --> 01:06:34.120
as in removed bore as in endured bore as in he lifted up our disease the question is did he really

01:06:35.160 --> 01:06:43.880
and the day you arrive at the conclusion that he did it becomes a question of did he really

01:06:44.200 --> 01:06:54.040
that he did it becomes such a solid foundation from which you deal with infirmity sickness disease

01:06:54.040 --> 01:07:01.480
for the rest of your life some things have to be wrestled through so you arrive at a at that moment

01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:02.920
where you don't doubt anymore

01:07:08.600 --> 01:07:16.760
this is a ridiculous importance if especially if you are young because you can live a life that

01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:25.720
is different in the future which is not to say someone like me can't deal with this

01:07:27.080 --> 01:07:31.240
but it's so much easier to learn something when you're young and practice it for years on end

01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.480
so any questions on that statement

01:07:40.200 --> 01:07:48.600
um it's just a word meaning of the word bore so if you don't want to take and your use removed

01:07:48.600 --> 01:07:54.040
and lifted these are these are explanations for the greek word that is therefore bore so remove

01:07:54.040 --> 01:08:01.160
endured endured as in he took a beating his back was plowed open he endured it so that by his stripes

01:08:01.640 --> 01:08:08.520
he but you can pick any of those he bore as he removed he lifted our disease did he really

01:08:08.520 --> 01:08:09.320
that's the question

01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:27.000
he put to death sickness he put to death death he put to death sin he put to death the penalty of

01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:37.400
sin he put to death danger he when he put to that he also rescued you from it so the word sozo which

01:08:37.400 --> 01:08:46.280
is often used for healing means rescue so did he i pray god that you wrestle with this to a point

01:08:46.280 --> 01:08:51.720
where you either conclude he didn't or you conclude he did and then it changes your life forever

01:08:52.040 --> 01:08:57.080
it doesn't mean that sickness and disease may not come your way we live in a fallen world and there

01:08:57.080 --> 01:09:03.000
are certain results of fallenness that we unfortunately cannot avoid oh my god there's

01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:05.000
a way to combat it and get out of it

01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:14.120
these are the extreme positions we can take in christ not because of church doctrine but because

01:09:14.120 --> 01:09:16.040
of church doctrine but because of scripture

01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:25.400
as the world is waiting for a group of people to say this is what we believe and we see it so often

01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:30.760
if it's not modeled it cannot be tasted

01:09:34.120 --> 01:09:41.480
so if that's the case rediscover when it comes to healing rediscover the promise rediscover the

01:09:41.480 --> 01:09:54.120
promise as in malachi 4 2 malachi 4 2 what does it say and the son of righteousness will rise with

01:09:54.120 --> 01:10:00.600
healing in his wings and you will leave your stalls and jump around like calves as you leave

01:10:01.400 --> 01:10:09.960
isaiah 53 4 i'm just giving you some there are many more isaiah 53 4 he was bruised for my he was

01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:17.000
bruised or chastised for my peace and he was striped for my sickness and my healing some 103

01:10:18.120 --> 01:10:27.160
was five or thereabouts he sent his word and he healed my disease and he has renewed my youth like

01:10:27.160 --> 01:10:34.200
an eagle matthew 8 17 and he went around healing many that were demon possessed and that was sick

01:10:34.200 --> 01:10:40.760
that were brought to him so that isaiah may be fulfilled that he himself took our infirmities

01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:52.200
and he bore our diseases exodus 23 verse 25 i am yave your healer i will not put on you

01:10:52.200 --> 01:11:01.160
any of the diseases that were put on you in egypt exodus 15 verse 26 i will take away from you

01:11:02.120 --> 01:11:07.880
any sickness or disease i will take it away from you one is he won't put it on us two he will take

01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:14.840
it away this is the nature of yave rafa we must understand this guys it is his nature

01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:21.560
before even christ came he was already saying listen i will not put the diseases of egypt on

01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:29.160
you and i will take away that which you're afflicted with this is yave and jesus himself

01:11:29.160 --> 01:11:39.640
comes and says he is yave this is his nature this is his nature

01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:47.880
rediscover the rediscover the promise next reclaim

01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:59.560
reclaim what has already been done what has already been done

01:12:02.120 --> 01:12:05.880
as an active truth

01:12:08.200 --> 01:12:12.920
as something granted as something finished

01:12:12.920 --> 01:12:20.920
as and how do you reclaim things you begin to believe it and speak it

01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:25.720
in the face of sickness

01:12:31.080 --> 01:12:36.200
how does that look like you can say to someone else you can say to yourself you can say to your

01:12:36.200 --> 01:12:40.360
body you can say to god you can say it in front of the church but he already did this for me

01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:42.600
he said i was healed

01:12:45.160 --> 01:12:53.480
that he already paid the price this is already granted it is a present truth it's not from the

01:12:53.480 --> 01:12:59.880
past it's not in the future it's my present reality that christ who is alive and present here right

01:12:59.880 --> 01:13:06.440
now listening to my words has already done this i don't know if you only see scars on his hands

01:13:06.440 --> 01:13:10.840
scars on his hands or whether you see marks on his back the bible doesn't talk about it

01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:17.320
but if those marks have disappeared they're still real if i can go into his throne room every day

01:13:17.320 --> 01:13:23.000
despite having sinned because there's a freshly slain blood pathway into the throne room that

01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:29.000
lasts forever surely the freshly opened back of christ is sufficient for my healing

01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:36.280
these things cannot be spurned or turned away from you can't explain this away with greek

01:13:36.280 --> 01:13:40.680
and hebrew you can never explain away the nature of god with greek and hebrew

01:13:46.440 --> 01:13:51.240
you can explain scriptures with greek and hebrew but you can never explain the nature of god away

01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:59.080
you can come up with 20 definitions of kind but my god i know he is kind and you can't change that

01:13:59.080 --> 01:14:01.240
even if you came up with a greek word that says otherwise

01:14:01.320 --> 01:14:05.960
you can't take away the fact that he's a father you can show me all kinds of old testaments

01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:11.160
creatures the scriptures where he looks like an ogre a monster but this one thing i know

01:14:11.160 --> 01:14:16.840
that you can spell monster in greek but you do not know my father because he is kind and he is a father

01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:22.600
this is his nature guys

01:14:26.040 --> 01:14:28.840
this is what we need to stand for these things are put to death

01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:33.160
this is what we need to stand for these things are put to death and then things were brought to life

01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:41.080
then receive when you reclaim you must expect to receive when i go to claim something

01:14:41.080 --> 01:14:47.560
i expect to receive it how do i receive it god answers i'm sorry i'm shouting but it is

01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:52.280
important god answers immediately what he has said is in his will

01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:58.440
god answers immediately you receive it in your spirit by faith immediately and then you process

01:14:58.440 --> 01:15:06.920
it with your mind and then you see it expressed in a physical situation but when god says something

01:15:06.920 --> 01:15:14.440
that he says is his will he answers immediately receive it in your spirit immediately

01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:17.400
receive it in your spirit immediately

01:15:22.040 --> 01:15:26.280
the one who said he will never leave me his presence is here now

01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:35.880
the one who said my name is immanuel is a with us god who is for us too and his promises hold

01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:39.720
good now because he's i am not i was or i will be

01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:49.880
so receive it immediately as in jesus you said this i can't see it but i receive it in my spirit

01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:52.280
immediately as my present reality

01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:59.160
then the mind begins to doubt question and you work your mind through the scriptures

01:15:59.160 --> 01:16:09.080
because god be true and every man be a liar you receive it immediately every morning you go and

01:16:09.080 --> 01:16:14.680
stand in the mirror to see if things have changed and when it doesn't change you begin to indulge

01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:21.560
in something called praise where you start rejoicing where you start rejoicing not rejoicing

01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:27.320
to make something happen rejoicing because your father is true rejoicing because your father is

01:16:27.320 --> 01:16:33.000
true you do not rejoice because it's some kind of a mantra to make feeling happen you rejoice

01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:40.520
because the one who said he will do what he will do is true that's why you rejoice you don't rejoice

01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:45.000
to make things happen that's an old way of doing things just keep praising even it feels like

01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:47.960
sawdust in your mouth just keep praising if you praise enough something will happen

01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:53.320
that's not sincere praise praise must have a reason and the reason must be the beauty or the

01:16:53.320 --> 01:17:03.560
nature of god of the beauty or the nature of what he said and so after you receive you rejoice and

01:17:04.440 --> 01:17:04.920
so

01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:19.000
after you receive you rejoice and then you go into rebuking rebuke as in what is what is

01:17:19.160 --> 01:17:24.520
what does rebuke mean you impose a new kingdom value

01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:39.240
a new kingdom value over what is not from god anything that is not from god can be rebuked

01:17:39.240 --> 01:17:46.600
you impose a new kingdom value you override you forbid

01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:57.640
you force out you expel this is what jesus does in luke 4 37 he goes up to peter's mother-in-law

01:17:57.640 --> 01:18:02.840
but she has a fever she can hardly move he goes up to her and he rebukes the fever he speaks to

01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:10.440
this thing that is a condition but he speaks to it almost as if it is animate and he rebukes

01:18:10.440 --> 01:18:17.080
the fever and it leaves to rebuke is to impose a new value if this is what is happening impose a

01:18:17.080 --> 01:18:22.520
new kingdom value what is the kingdom value a kingdom value is anything that christ has done

01:18:22.520 --> 01:18:28.600
for us and finished on the cross that's a kingdom value you impose it and after having imposed it

01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:34.440
now you have the right to force it out expel it dismiss it stop it command it undone

01:18:36.200 --> 01:18:38.440
some of this is work and we don't like work

01:18:42.360 --> 01:18:43.880
it's not in the words guys

01:18:48.440 --> 01:18:51.720
it's not how you say it how loudly you say it it's

01:18:54.040 --> 01:18:55.080
this remember this

01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:00.680
this everybody has it

01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:07.720
you rebuke it

01:19:10.440 --> 01:19:17.160
and then you begin to only after this i would suggest do you go and ask the holy spirit to

01:19:17.160 --> 01:19:26.840
reveal to reveal to you if there's anything else

01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:30.680
to be dealt with

01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:32.760
like

01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:45.800
sin or fallenness or demonic or diet or whatever

01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:54.760
very often what happens with charismatic christians or penicastal christians is we first go and try to

01:19:54.760 --> 01:20:04.520
find out the sin part of it man because we are not very good with guilt and condemnation we talked

01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:11.320
about this last week when you go first thinking that god reckons your sin against you it puts

01:20:11.320 --> 01:20:20.840
you at a disadvantage deal with the sin yes but later deal with the diet yes later deal with the

01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:25.400
demonic or the fallenness of the world later but don't deal with it first on because you

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cripple yourself by always going to god saying here's a magnifying glass look at me examine me

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because i'm sure there's some sin and that's why i'm suffering it just puts you at such a disadvantage

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go to what he's already done because strangely the scriptures say that he does not count your

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sins against you

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i've been in ministries 20 years ago where you always try to find out the sin

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yes it must be dealt with i remember having backaches and asking god father

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dealt with everything and finally god said go read isaiah 17 four and it says that jacob's fat

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shall grow thin all that meant was jacob start walking you lose some weight and your back pain

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will go but i didn't know there was a scripture in the bible it says jacob's fat shall grow thin

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it actually says that so there it was not demons it was not sin it was not the fallenness of the

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world it was just walking diet so this is when you begin to see father is there anything else

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you want to reveal that i can deal with and then you remember when as you go through this you begin

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to remember his goodness and his faithfulness his goodness and his faithfulness his goodness and his

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faithfulness you begin to remember it you you talk about it you recall it you broadcast it you know

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how israel used to walk into the future i love how israel used to walk in the future they would walk

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into the future this way why because they would have their eyes locked on the past and remember

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the faithfulness of god and the goodness of god they would always walk into the future backwards

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and blind because they would see what he has done you've done this you've done this you've done this

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you've done this again and again and again i am willing to keep my eyes locked on who you are

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your goodness and your faithfulness and i will walk backwards into the future now it makes sense

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why it says in isaiah that god knows the end from the beginning so why not keep your eyes locked on

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the beginning and all the things he's done so that you can keep moving backwards this these

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principles apply to every area of life i'm just using sickness as a method to deal with this

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you remember david psalm 42 verse 4 these things i remember as i pour out my soul how i used to

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praise you god amongst the happy crowd but why are you so sad my soul why so distressed

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within me put your hope in god for i will yet praise him that's the kind of god we serve man

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yes this is doctrinal and yes this is what this church believes

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which is why trees of healing wells of healing shall be found in this church and this city and

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others will benefit because we believe in something there's no iffiness of watchiness about this

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and if you're on the outskirts if you're not fully convinced don't worry

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we'll keep going over this message again and again truth when it's repeated changes the mind

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and when truth is manifest and you begin to see healings happening then you'll be like queen

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i had heard of you but now i have seen you'll be like job i had heard of you but now i have seen

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the other thing you do with sickness is you you break bread and you remember the benefits of his

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death you break bread and remember the benefits of his death how is it a conference in switzerland

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many years ago and the preacher was a doctor and i used to have severe pain in my tailbone

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where if i sat for more than a little while my tailbone would begin to pain where i would have

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to stand and then not sit for a while severe pain and this doctor is telling us about the same thing

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that he would suffer and he was a medical doctor not a toony doctor and so he knew what he was

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talking about and so he said one of the things he began doing is he began to break bread

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because when he talked to the lord the lord said you need to begin to remember the benefits of

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my death so he and his wife would sit together and break bread and within a matter of i think

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six days or six weeks i don't remember it disappeared and i'm listening to it and i'm sitting there and

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i can feel my tailbone hurting i was staying at this house as a guest and i asked them for

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some bread and the swiss make really good bread and i asked them for some juice and that morning

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i began to break bread and remember the benefits of his death the Passover was supposed to do that

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guys the intent was listen i'm rescuing you from bondage i'm rescuing you from the diseases of

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Egypt i'm rescuing you rescuing you from the gods of Egypt i'm judging the gods of Egypt and i'm

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judging the diseases of Egypt that was the idea of Passover and it still holds good while things

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were breaking out all across Egypt in Goshen were a people that were distinct

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and the blood of the Passover lamb it still holds good

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sometimes break bread with people you don't have to be a pastor to do that

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you don't have to be in a church to do that and then last step repeat

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start from the beginning and go through it so here's what we're going to do we're going to

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trust that what we said is the truth and the truth manifests itself and so regardless of what sickness

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or disease you have you don't have to get up you don't have to do anything we're just going to sing

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songs of healing i know i've said this to you before i was in a church in hoshen run by a guy

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called Colin Urquhart his son was leading worship and he asks people who have sickness and disease

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to stand and they stood and then he asked the worship team to come up and begin to sing and

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they only sang songs with healing scriptures there was nothing else there was not oh god you're a

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wonderful healer no it was you're the lord that healed me just pure scripture and then this young

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boy Colin Urquhart's son says as we sing our scriptures it says he sent his word and he healed

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our disease he said as we sing all these scriptures can you trust that the same thing

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will begin to happen again and as it begins to happen if you know for sure that you are healed

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and you know it because you you either know it or you feel it sit down and i watched there's 110

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people stood because i almost took a count and then in the end by the time i left there were 25 or 26

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standing he sent forth his word and he healed our disease we'll do that and we leave yeah whenever

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you want to leave you leave there'll be people here to pray for anything but healing today there's no

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prayer for healing today you can pray for other things people will be here to pray but if you want

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healing ain't nobody going to pray for healing today because we're going to trust that the word

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is sent to you and you have the ability to do that yeah okay

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just sit here you don't need a mic you can just sit here and sing

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jesus we so believe what we have heard today i believe it with all my heart

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and so i just thank you as we hear testimonies from this evening

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of how the word was sent as it was sent years ago and how it healed diseases

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so holy spirit we come into a position of receiving and remembering promises reclaiming

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what is already done

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we don't have a song full of scripture but we'll do the best we can

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but i just thank you spirit of god that you're present here because it says in mark 16 that as

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they began to preach the word christ who is seated in heaven began to confirm their words with

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attest their words with signs and wonders so let it be so now in jesus name

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attest their words with signs and wonders so let it be so now in jesus name

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i love it lord you're the doer caution you do such a great job a perfect job

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the perfect one is here hallelujah the perfect one is here the kind one is here

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the compassionate one is here the all-powerful one is here jave rafa is here

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so

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I sent my son and he healed your disease. I am the Lord your healer.

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Thank you Jesus for what you're doing. I am the Lord that healeth these.

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I am the Lord your healer. I sent my word and I healed your disease.

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I am the Lord your healer. By my stripes, by my stripes you have been healed.

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By my bruises you have my peace.

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By my death you now have new life. I am the Lord your healer.

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He is the Lord that healeth me. He is the Lord that healeth me.

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He is the Lord my healer.

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He sends his word and he heals my disease.

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He is the Lord my healer.

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So we thank you for digestive systems that are being healed.

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Digestive systems that are being healed. Thank you. Thank you for the end to bleeding across this room.

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Internal bleeding above. Thank you.

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Thank you. Keep playing.

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May bless you Father.

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I trust in you.

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I trust in you.

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I so believe you're my healer.

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I so believe you are all we need.

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I so believe that you're a portion.

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I so believe you're more than enough for me.

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Jesus you're all I need.

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Thank you Father. Thank you. But nothing is impossible.

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Nothing is impossible.

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So even as Tony plays loud the service has ended. We can leave when we want but

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some of us will just receive your touch quietly.

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You know strangely you're saying you'll receive a touch in your heart first

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and you will see me as who I am and then your body.

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So we look forward to that touch oh God.

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you